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How dare he use his privilege for any ends other than selfishly defending the rights of the privileged!

nephihaha 11mo ago
Well, he is. He has a cooshy number entertaining the chattering classes and educating their offspring. He has no experience or understanding of poverty from the inside. Like a lot of his ilk, most of his understanding is second hand and theoretical. He wouldn't last five minutes on a factory floor.
- notarobot123 11mo ago
  I'm not advocating for him specifically, but it doesn't seem reasonable that one would need a lived experience of poverty and deprivation to be able to meaningfully understand its causes and effects or to have some inclination to prevent it. Compassion is not a vice nor is making a career of advocating for change.
  - nephihaha 10mo ago
    He's never off mainstream media, has his own page on the World Economic Forum website, works for a posh university. He is in the elite and never left it. If he was compassionate, he would condemn the WEF, instead of enabling it. It is an antidemocratic organisation, is partnered with big business and does not allow free press coverage of its events. It does seem reasonable that people should have experienced poverty to understand it. The world has been full of people who came from privileged backgrounds who claim to speak for the working class and don't understand them. Maxim Gorky talks about this with Lenin and Lunacharsky. p.s. Also please don't use that word "change". It is meaningless. Change is something which happens anyway. "Progress" and "improvement" are better.
  - _DeadFred_ 10mo ago
    Strong disagree. As someone who has dropped down multiple social classes, I had zero ACTUAL idea about what people were going through, nor about ACTUAL solutions to their problems. But I had lots of solutions to hypothetical problems in my head because I was smart and good hearted. Having been through the result of implemented hypothetical solutions, they suck. They not only suck, but the suck all of the oxygen up, so that real, better solutions can't replace them.
    - seec 10mo ago
      Yep, you have to suffer the various effects of the system to understand it. Which is why there are actually hardly any people of the lower class that are actually socialist. They know firsthand that the only thing you are doing is replacing a dependency relation with a power imbalance that allows some abuse with another one that actually increases both dependency and actually institutionalizes abuse. In my opinion, the modern-day socialists are the equivalent of priests who spend all day convincing people to give some of their money because they are going to make a “better community” and help the poor. In practice, anyone who knows the other side of this trade would rather have a solution that doesn't involve them…
      - saubeidl 10mo ago
        I just finished reading this NYT article about Elke Kahr, mayor of the year 2023, and avowed communist. She comes from a really poor background and its informed her views and made her into the great leader she is today. I'd recommend giving it a read! https://archive.ph/liqSA https://archive.ph/liqSA

Well, he is. He has a cooshy number entertaining the chattering classes and educating their offspring. He has no experience or understanding of poverty from the inside. Like a lot of his ilk, most of his understanding is second hand and theoretical. He wouldn't last five minutes on a factory floor.

notarobot123 11mo ago
I'm not advocating for him specifically, but it doesn't seem reasonable that one would need a lived experience of poverty and deprivation to be able to meaningfully understand its causes and effects or to have some inclination to prevent it. Compassion is not a vice nor is making a career of advocating for change.
- nephihaha 10mo ago
  He's never off mainstream media, has his own page on the World Economic Forum website, works for a posh university. He is in the elite and never left it. If he was compassionate, he would condemn the WEF, instead of enabling it. It is an antidemocratic organisation, is partnered with big business and does not allow free press coverage of its events. It does seem reasonable that people should have experienced poverty to understand it. The world has been full of people who came from privileged backgrounds who claim to speak for the working class and don't understand them. Maxim Gorky talks about this with Lenin and Lunacharsky. p.s. Also please don't use that word "change". It is meaningless. Change is something which happens anyway. "Progress" and "improvement" are better.
- _DeadFred_ 10mo ago
  Strong disagree. As someone who has dropped down multiple social classes, I had zero ACTUAL idea about what people were going through, nor about ACTUAL solutions to their problems. But I had lots of solutions to hypothetical problems in my head because I was smart and good hearted. Having been through the result of implemented hypothetical solutions, they suck. They not only suck, but the suck all of the oxygen up, so that real, better solutions can't replace them.
  - seec 10mo ago
    Yep, you have to suffer the various effects of the system to understand it. Which is why there are actually hardly any people of the lower class that are actually socialist. They know firsthand that the only thing you are doing is replacing a dependency relation with a power imbalance that allows some abuse with another one that actually increases both dependency and actually institutionalizes abuse. In my opinion, the modern-day socialists are the equivalent of priests who spend all day convincing people to give some of their money because they are going to make a “better community” and help the poor. In practice, anyone who knows the other side of this trade would rather have a solution that doesn't involve them…
    - saubeidl 10mo ago
      I just finished reading this NYT article about Elke Kahr, mayor of the year 2023, and avowed communist. She comes from a really poor background and its informed her views and made her into the great leader she is today. I'd recommend giving it a read! https://archive.ph/liqSA https://archive.ph/liqSA