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I agree about Zynga having the wrong model, but I do not think the things you mentioned are wasteful (other than repainting the dog). I do not know why people a
by hristov 14y ago
I agree about Zynga having the wrong model, but I do not think the things you mentioned are wasteful (other than repainting the dog). I do not know why people always assume that treating your employees well is some type of waste.
Think about this -- how much does a competent IT person cost per hour? How much does an engineer cost per hour? Some engineers cost up to $100 per hour once you add all the incentives and incidental costs.
Now what happens when an engineer has a broken keyboard in an old fashioned "frugal" company? He has to call tech support and he has to wait and he gets the perfect excuse not to do work. Tech support will not show up immediately, because this is a "frugal" company, so they do not have people in tech support just sitting around waiting for someone to get a broken keyboard. Oh no, they are frugal and have their support people's schedules full, which means that $100 an hour engineer gets to wait a couple of hours till the support person comes.
But in "wasteful" Zynga, that same engineer can go and replace his own keyboard for 5 minutes. That office supply vebding machine seems like a brilliant idea to me. Of course it is a vending machine, so it presumably keeps track of who takes what, so nobody can just take a bunch of stuff and resell it on the street.
The thing about the organic chips is a great idea too. It takes so much longer for anybody to go somewhere and buy something. And if a programmer goes out of the office he loses context, which means it may take him another hour to soak up the context of everything he was doing. Oh and if you eat unhealthy food or drink sugary drinks you can easily spend an entire afternoon in food/sugar coma. Of course one should not waste food regardless of how much they paid for this, but that can be solved by social measures.
I do not know why investors get their hearts warmed up by the suffering of their companies' employees but this is usually very counterproductive.
Google is very successful and is famous for their perks. Outsiders make fun of them, but Google management knows better. The better the perks, the more likely your valuable employees will stay in the office, avoid distractions and get more work done.
- edwinnathaniel 14y agoSo you're saying that we should lock a programmer in a room and give him a blank sheet of paper for their "wishlist" and let them work non-stop? It's about time we drop this whole mumbo-jumbo "software developer laser-focus work hours increase productivity through the roof". At the end of the day, all of us are human being that is limited by something somehow.
- stan_rogers 14y agoI don't know what sort of pattern you're envisioning, but I (and most of the programmers I know) work in bursts. Sure, I can appear to be busy doing the 9-to-5 thing, but a lot of that is being done sort of absently/mechanically. When the light bulb goes on, when the problem that's been running in a background process while I've been absently doing the ritual crap that needs doing is finally solved (or at least a method of solving it emerges), my mode changes. That can happen at any time of the day (or at no time on some days). Just getting that flash into tangible form (let's forget about getting it polished for the moment) takes time and doesn't easily tolerate interruption. And it isn't something that happens at will. It's time to drop this whole mumbo-jumbo "developers are just like factory workers" thing. There may be elements of engineering in what we do, but unless we're working on solved problems, we're creatives with a technical bent.
- Evbn 14y agoReplace your quotation with a complete sentence, or least a grammatical phrase, if you want to be understood.
- encoderer 14y agoMOST good engineers in the bay area cost upwards of $100/hr to employ. I'd estimate the median to be somewhere in the range of $110-120k. So, $55-60/hr for salary alone. Now add employment taxes (even higher in SF city limits) and benefits and equity.