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> AV1 is also the foundation for the image format AVIF, which is deployed across browsers and provides excellent compression for still and animated images I wi
by shmerl 11mo ago
> AV1 is also the foundation for the image format AVIF, which is deployed across browsers and provides excellent compression for still and animated images
I wish adoption was better. When will Wikipedia support AVIF?
- bjoli 11mo agoWhat does it bring over jpegxl?
- shmerl 11mo agoWay wider browser adoption, potential to evolve together with AV#, since it's using a container format, so it shouldn't be limited to AV1 base. I.e. sites just need to adopt AVIF, and I expect then seamless ability to start using AV2 (and on) there without sites needing another wave of adding a new mime type and etc. which seems to be a huge hurdle. Same as let's say Webm can contain AV1, AV2 etc.
- lawrencejgd 11mo agoIt doesn't matter that AVIF uses the same container for AV1 or AV2 based encoding, if the browsers don't have the right decoder for it then they can't decode it. An example of this is MP4: Browsers can decode videos encoded with H264 in MP4 containers, but not H265 even if it uses the same container, because one thing is the container and another thing is the codec, they're related but they aren't the same.
- shmerl 11mo agoBrowser adoption happens way faster than sites adoption (as current AVIF itself clearly demonstrates), so same container does matter to reduce contention on sites adoption side. I.e. once browser adoption happens you'll be able to use AV2 for AVIF without the likes of Wikipedia taking another decade after that to add an additional mime type to their supported images.
- adzm 11mo agoNotably, AVIF uses the HEIF container like HEIC. HEIF is an extension of ISOBMFF, mp4 files are another example of an ISOBMFF format. I'm surprised how ubiquitous that container format is becoming; webm uses the matroska / mkv format but I bet if it was created today they would have likely used something ISOBMFF derived
- sleepycatgirl 11mo agoThe standard/spec is not paywalled. So... yeah.
- gsich 11mo agoHopefully never. Abusing Intra-frames from video codecs is an abomination. Use JPEG-XL.
- debugnik 11mo agoOn the web? Good luck. AVIF is considered a baseline browser feature as of last year by the W3C; whereas JPEG XL is not fully supported by any stable browser release whatsoever, only Safari has been shipping partial support.
- gsich 11mo agoUntil Google (and by proxy their underling Mozilla) becomes sane again, JPG or PNG/SVG depending on content.
- notpushkin 11mo agoIt might change now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46033330 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46033330
- jitl 11mo agoMy Fujifilm X100VI shoots HEIC/HEIF, which is like the AVIF of H.265/HEVC. It seems to offer better compression than JPEG while having smaller file size. iPhone does this too. Why are you calling it an abomination?
- shmerl 11mo agoCameras should start using AVIF. HEIF is completely DOA for anything, same as H.265 is.
- lern_too_spel 11mo agoHEIF is the container format shared by AVIF and HEIC.
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