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Well, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonce_word https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonce_word It makes me sad when a secondary meaning, which does not even overcome
by nine_k 11mo ago
Well, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonce_word https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonce_word
It makes me sad when a secondary meaning, which does not even overcome the main meaning in usage, becomes an obstacle for the normal use of a word. It's like seeing a rainbow as a sexualized symbol not fit for children, because it also happens to be used by LGBTQ+ community. (BTW, since you're a Brit: did people stop using the word "fag" to refer to a cigarette?)
- bigstrat2003 11mo agoI mean, it is sad. But unfortunately that is what happened with "master", "slave", "whitelist", and "blacklist". No reasonable person construed these as offensive or having any implications about the wider world. But there are people in our profession who are determined to take offense where none is given, and unfortunately they got their way.
- nine_k 11mo agoWell, "slave" has a pretty direct main meaning of an oppressed person doing forced labor. The word "master" is much milder in this regard (compare "master's degree" and "slave's degree"). The word "nonce" in normal usage seems even more removed from any pejorative secondary meanings.
- nine_k 11mo agoMore to your point, yes, taking offense can be turned into a weapon: https://nassimtaleb.org/2016/08/intolerant-wins-dictatorship-small-minority/ https://nassimtaleb.org/2016/08/intolerant-wins-dictatorship...
- jasoncartwright 11mo agoAmusing to have my throwaway comment replied to with links to earnest points from prominent essayists. Never change, hacker news!
- jasoncartwright 11mo agoYes, words have multiple meanings - but only some words are apparently worthy of censorship - which is my point. > did people stop using the word "fag" to refer to a cigarette? Yes, seems so. I've not heard that in at least a decade