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At least for Mastodon and the rest of the Fediverse ecosystem it does seem that people actually want to use them, and more people every day.

by treyd 10mo ago

jamesbelchamber 10mo ago
People moved on from Mastodon to Bluesky because it was more responsive to user needs. I encouraged people to move to Mastodon but then watched them move on. It is what it is - but it's worth being clear-eyed about what it is.
- jmcnulty 10mo ago
  It has actually improved a lot since then. The UI has had changes, search is better, it has quote posts now. More usability enhancements are under active development.
  - palata 10mo ago
    Once "normies" have tried and moved away, I think it's too late. Unfortunately such services don't get a second chance. It was probably hard enough to convince them to try once.
  - JoshTriplett 10mo ago
    > search is better Search is still awful, in part because a few people don't seem to want it. It needs substantial improvement.
- 7moritz7 10mo ago
  FOSS just does not have the aggressive scaling mindset. Even success stories like Linux' game compatibility and Chromium can be traced to just regular tech companies, as opposed to non profits.
  - getpokedagain 10mo ago
    Maybe this is ok? Many non open source apps do get critical mass but they eventually go bust. Emacs, git, Linux and I think even Mastodon have a slower uptake but do not seem to have such a high risk of collapse. While YouTube and Facebook et al seem to have an insurmountable moat and collection of users the reality is recent history is littered with boom to bust failures: MySpace, Vine, Yahoo all the way back to GeoCities. I would be patient and only worry if mastodon is actively dying. For me it's the only social media app I have installed.
  - jahnu 10mo ago
    What is the aggressive mindeset of Bluesky? I have both Mastondon and Bluesky accounts and in my experience I find Bluesky is just simpler to use which attracted more of the types of accounts I wanted to follow. Nothing aggressive about that, just good UX resulting in a richer pool of accounts.

At least for Mastodon and the rest of the Fediverse ecosystem it does seem that people actually want to use them, and more people every day.

by treyd 10mo ago

At least for Mastodon and the rest of the Fediverse ecosystem it does seem that people actually want to use them, and more people every day.

jamesbelchamber 10mo ago

People moved on from Mastodon to Bluesky because it was more responsive to user needs. I encouraged people to move to Mastodon but then watched them move on. It is what it is - but it's worth being clear-eyed about what it is.

jmcnulty 10mo ago
It has actually improved a lot since then. The UI has had changes, search is better, it has quote posts now. More usability enhancements are under active development.
- palata 10mo ago
  Once "normies" have tried and moved away, I think it's too late. Unfortunately such services don't get a second chance. It was probably hard enough to convince them to try once.
- JoshTriplett 10mo ago
  > search is better Search is still awful, in part because a few people don't seem to want it. It needs substantial improvement.
7moritz7 10mo ago
FOSS just does not have the aggressive scaling mindset. Even success stories like Linux' game compatibility and Chromium can be traced to just regular tech companies, as opposed to non profits.
- getpokedagain 10mo ago
  Maybe this is ok? Many non open source apps do get critical mass but they eventually go bust. Emacs, git, Linux and I think even Mastodon have a slower uptake but do not seem to have such a high risk of collapse. While YouTube and Facebook et al seem to have an insurmountable moat and collection of users the reality is recent history is littered with boom to bust failures: MySpace, Vine, Yahoo all the way back to GeoCities. I would be patient and only worry if mastodon is actively dying. For me it's the only social media app I have installed.
- jahnu 10mo ago
  What is the aggressive mindeset of Bluesky? I have both Mastondon and Bluesky accounts and in my experience I find Bluesky is just simpler to use which attracted more of the types of accounts I wanted to follow. Nothing aggressive about that, just good UX resulting in a richer pool of accounts.