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It's wild when you think about it: a family scrapes together a down payment and pays full freight on property taxes, while a corporate landlord can roll one pro

It's wild when you think about it: a family scrapes together a down payment and pays full freight on property taxes, while a corporate landlord can roll one property's paper losses into the next deal and keep building their portfolio, tax-deferred

drivingmenuts 10mo ago
Don't forget the sweetheart tax rebates they sometimes get for promises of development.
hippich 10mo ago
Afaik, property taxes are due no matter what, at least in Texas.
- thfuran 10mo ago
  The tax being deferred is income/capital gains.
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- burnt-resistor 10mo ago
  A lot of veterans live in TX because they have reduced or no property taxes, and also no income taxes. It's probably ~ 8-10% of disabled vets in my neighborhood.
  - seethishat 10mo ago
    The reduction in property taxes is just for vets, right? I read that, in general, property taxes are high in Texas compared to other states.
    - burnt-resistor 10mo ago
      Yep and yep.
bpt3 10mo ago
In many states, there's a homestead exemption on property taxes that doesn't apply to non-owner occupied properties, so the opposite is true. Also, I don't know what you mean about rolling paper losses into the next deal, but I suspect it's not accurate either. There's a reason this non-existent loophole wasn't mentioned in the article that was looking for reasons to hate on corporate landlords.
- georgeburdell 10mo ago
  Capital loss carryover is possibly what they were referring to Unrelated note but the Homestead exemption in Santa Clara County, average sale price $2,300,000, is $7,000. To be explicit, the home’s value is reduced by $7,000 for valuation purposes. Edit: the tax deferred part sounds like a 1031 exchange
  - bpt3 10mo ago
    You might be right about the 1031 exchange, but that has almost nothing to do with property taxes. The homestead exemptions are very small or non-existent in some states, but I believe they are fairly substantial in the south. Ultimately, my point was that they are completely wrong in that I don't know of a single locality where landlords are given discounts on property taxes but owner occupied homes have to pay full freight, but the opposite is true in at least some cases. They could be talking about developer incentives for new construction, but that's not the same thing IMO and it's difficult to understand what they meant. It's very, very hard to talk to people who have such strong, completely uninformed opinions and seem to be completely unwilling to even attempt to educate themselves on the topic. To be clear, this is not pointed at you, I'm just not willing to invest the time you did to seriously guess at what the parent poster was going on about.
rmah 10mo ago
You can't use unrealized capital losses (property paper losses) or even realized losses to offset property tax, you can only offset realized losses against realized gains for income taxes.

drivingmenuts 10mo ago

Don't forget the sweetheart tax rebates they sometimes get for promises of development.

hippich 10mo ago

Afaik, property taxes are due no matter what, at least in Texas.

thfuran 10mo ago
The tax being deferred is income/capital gains.
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burnt-resistor 10mo ago
A lot of veterans live in TX because they have reduced or no property taxes, and also no income taxes. It's probably ~ 8-10% of disabled vets in my neighborhood.
- seethishat 10mo ago
  The reduction in property taxes is just for vets, right? I read that, in general, property taxes are high in Texas compared to other states.
  - burnt-resistor 10mo ago
    Yep and yep.

bpt3 10mo ago

In many states, there's a homestead exemption on property taxes that doesn't apply to non-owner occupied properties, so the opposite is true. Also, I don't know what you mean about rolling paper losses into the next deal, but I suspect it's not accurate either. There's a reason this non-existent loophole wasn't mentioned in the article that was looking for reasons to hate on corporate landlords.

georgeburdell 10mo ago
Capital loss carryover is possibly what they were referring to Unrelated note but the Homestead exemption in Santa Clara County, average sale price $2,300,000, is $7,000. To be explicit, the home’s value is reduced by $7,000 for valuation purposes. Edit: the tax deferred part sounds like a 1031 exchange
- bpt3 10mo ago
  You might be right about the 1031 exchange, but that has almost nothing to do with property taxes. The homestead exemptions are very small or non-existent in some states, but I believe they are fairly substantial in the south. Ultimately, my point was that they are completely wrong in that I don't know of a single locality where landlords are given discounts on property taxes but owner occupied homes have to pay full freight, but the opposite is true in at least some cases. They could be talking about developer incentives for new construction, but that's not the same thing IMO and it's difficult to understand what they meant. It's very, very hard to talk to people who have such strong, completely uninformed opinions and seem to be completely unwilling to even attempt to educate themselves on the topic. To be clear, this is not pointed at you, I'm just not willing to invest the time you did to seriously guess at what the parent poster was going on about.

rmah 10mo ago

You can't use unrealized capital losses (property paper losses) or even realized losses to offset property tax, you can only offset realized losses against realized gains for income taxes.