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This style/tone of discourse is really disrespectful and not very interesting. The EU is a big place with a lot going on. You will persuade more people and le

by lokar 11mo ago

This style/tone of discourse is really disrespectful and not very interesting. The EU is a big place with a lot going on. You will persuade more people and learn more if you engage in a more open style.

pb7 11mo ago
I persuade you to build more and fine less. https://x.com/da_fant/status/1998090511807381613?s=20 https://x.com/da_fant/status/1998090511807381613?s=20
- brisket_bronson 11mo ago
  I couldn't find any source for this chart other than the picture on Twitter. Do you have the source?
- mhitza 11mo ago
  Play by the rules or don't operate in the EU market? Seems straightforward to me. Large US tech companies like to pretend like they are being harassed by regulation, but in the end they behave as if they were regular business expenses. Do shady things now, get fined X years later.
  - re-thc 11mo ago
    > Play by the rules or don't operate in the EU market? Seems straightforward to me. Sounds like an invite for no 1 to operate. The rules just keep growing faster than the AI bubble.
    - mhitza 11mo ago
      > The rules just keep growing faster than the AI bubble. No they aren't. What you have, and of interest to digital companies are. GDPR (2016), for all operating in the EU. You get the gist of it in an afternoon. The AI guideline (2024), also readable in an afternoon, and it mostly has provision that make life harder for those in law enforcement, and healthcare tech. DMA (2022), only affects the select few at the top Google, Apple, Facebook, etc. Show me where these bubbling "inscrutable" regulations, that push business away, are.
- frm88 11mo ago
  Could you please provide the source for this graph? Something more serious than twitter or Instagram? Edit: Found it. The data stem from a really radical paper that wants the US government to sanction Europe immediately and harshly [0]. Some guy called David Fant made the graph, presumably using data from said paper. The whole thing was then published on reddit [1] , Instagram and Twitter with a incidentiery headline. So yeah, in terms of credibility this thing falls flat. [0] https://itif.org/publications/2025/12/01/defending-american-tech-in-global-markets/ https://itif.org/publications/2025/12/01/defending-american-... [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/XGramatikInsights/comments/1pi28x8/it_seems_the_eus_real_revenue_engine_isnt/ https://www.reddit.com/r/XGramatikInsights/comments/1pi28x8/...
  - az09mugen 11mo ago
    Thanks for searching and finding the source of the graph.
re-thc 11mo ago
> The EU is a big place with a lot going on. Like investigations into Apple, X and others...
- lokar 11mo ago
  Again, why are you here? Either actually engage (make more detailed points based in fact, or ask real questions, or both), or take it to Twitter .
ndr 11mo ago
It's a prediction. What's disrespectful?
- lokar 11mo ago
  It dismisses an entire point of view out of hand without any real argument.

by lokar 11mo ago

pb7 11mo ago

I persuade you to build more and fine less. https://x.com/da_fant/status/1998090511807381613?s=20 https://x.com/da_fant/status/1998090511807381613?s=20

brisket_bronson 11mo ago
I couldn't find any source for this chart other than the picture on Twitter. Do you have the source?
mhitza 11mo ago
Play by the rules or don't operate in the EU market? Seems straightforward to me. Large US tech companies like to pretend like they are being harassed by regulation, but in the end they behave as if they were regular business expenses. Do shady things now, get fined X years later.
- re-thc 11mo ago
  > Play by the rules or don't operate in the EU market? Seems straightforward to me. Sounds like an invite for no 1 to operate. The rules just keep growing faster than the AI bubble.
  - mhitza 11mo ago
    > The rules just keep growing faster than the AI bubble. No they aren't. What you have, and of interest to digital companies are. GDPR (2016), for all operating in the EU. You get the gist of it in an afternoon. The AI guideline (2024), also readable in an afternoon, and it mostly has provision that make life harder for those in law enforcement, and healthcare tech. DMA (2022), only affects the select few at the top Google, Apple, Facebook, etc. Show me where these bubbling "inscrutable" regulations, that push business away, are.
frm88 11mo ago
Could you please provide the source for this graph? Something more serious than twitter or Instagram? Edit: Found it. The data stem from a really radical paper that wants the US government to sanction Europe immediately and harshly [0]. Some guy called David Fant made the graph, presumably using data from said paper. The whole thing was then published on reddit [1] , Instagram and Twitter with a incidentiery headline. So yeah, in terms of credibility this thing falls flat. [0] https://itif.org/publications/2025/12/01/defending-american-tech-in-global-markets/ https://itif.org/publications/2025/12/01/defending-american-... [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/XGramatikInsights/comments/1pi28x8/it_seems_the_eus_real_revenue_engine_isnt/ https://www.reddit.com/r/XGramatikInsights/comments/1pi28x8/...
- az09mugen 11mo ago
  Thanks for searching and finding the source of the graph.

re-thc 11mo ago

> The EU is a big place with a lot going on. Like investigations into Apple, X and others...

lokar 11mo ago
Again, why are you here? Either actually engage (make more detailed points based in fact, or ask real questions, or both), or take it to Twitter .

ndr 11mo ago

It's a prediction. What's disrespectful?

lokar 11mo ago
It dismisses an entire point of view out of hand without any real argument.