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Wow I was just looking for finding like this, but.. can't be recharged? It would be one thing if it had like 500 hours of recording, but this has 12-15.
by Bolwin 10mo ago
Wow I was just looking for finding like this, but.. can't be recharged? It would be one thing if it had like 500 hours of recording, but this has 12-15.
- notachatbot123 10mo agoWhere did you read that? The article says 5 minutes. Which is fine because it meant to transfer directly to the phone app. And the battery is said to "lasts for up to years of average use".
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- nerdsniper 10mo agoThe article says the battery lasts for years. Is that a misleading claim? Edit FTA: > How long does the battery last? > Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording. On average, I use it 10-20 times per day to record 3-6 second thoughts. That’s up to 2 years of usage.
- Daneel_ 10mo agoIt says two years of average use. “Two” is not “years” in my opinion. “Years” implies at least 3-5.
- koinedad 10mo agoTwo is definitely on the low end for “years”… really the lowest. But I did have a similar thought when I read it was only “two”
- andrelaszlo 10mo ago"Two year of average use"?
- Daneel_ 10mo agoI’m not talking grammar, I’m talking convention. Think of it more like this: If I was selling you a car and said it would last for years, then would you expect it to fall apart after two years? I certainly wouldn’t. When talking about small quantities we tend to specify an exact number (two, three), however as the range becomes larger and less exact we use generalities (years). Because of this “years” would typically refer to a span of at least 3-5 years, and I would argue even longer.
- skeledrew 10mo agoEven given that convention, with your example, a car is a far steeper investment than this ring. The more you invest in something, the more you expect to get out of it, and this ring is designed for a very low investment point, while still being highly durable (there are other similar rings out there at even lower investment points, but they probably won't survive anything beyond a sprinkle).
- zucked 10mo agoYears is literally just the plural of a single year. Ergo, years feels like the appropriate word here. What are you suggesting they phase it as instead?
- Daneel_ 10mo agoI would always say “two” when talking about such a small quantity. “Years” is misleading, as evidenced by many other comments here. “The battery lasts two years”
- rbits 10mo agoOn this page [1] in the technical specifications under battery life, instead of actually saying 12-15 hours of recording or 2 years, it just says "Years of average use" [1] https://repebble.com/index https://repebble.com/index
- ModernMech 10mo ago2 years: Couple years 3 years: Few years 4 years: Several years 5+ years: Years
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- apparent 10mo agoTwo is years. Some people would even say that 1.5 is "years". I go back and forth on this. Is it correct to say that something costs "thousands of dollars" if it costs $1,800? If it costs $2,000, IMO it's clear.
- jbstack 10mo agoSomething can be technically true while still being misleading. In fact arguably that's what the word misleading means (as opposed to false). I think most people, when told that something will last for "years", would be quite surprised to learn that it will fail after 2 years.
- apparent 10mo agoIf someone said a shirt will last for years I would have a different impression than if someone said that a battery-powered thing will last for years. For example, I have motion sensors in my home and I have to replace the batteries from time to time. If the manual said "the batteries last for years, depending on usage" I would not be surprised if it lasted for 2 years. Here, it sounds like the battery life will vary greatly based on usage. In fact, it sounds like the battery life is almost entirely a function of how much you use it. It would be interesting to know how much the battery will drain over time if you don't use it, but of course we can't know this for certain before this has been in the wild for years.
- jbstack 10mo ago> It says two years of average use. Even this is misleading. The product hasn't been released yet. So what is it an average of? How do you know how people will use it?
- pavo-etc 10mo agoIf English is your first language, this is the funniest comment I've seen today by a margin.
- Daneel_ 10mo agoIt’s my first language. Why is it funny to you? I’m dead serious when I say that “years” implies more than two in almost all contexts. If someone said “that’s years ago” I’d assume 5+. If someone said “it’ll be years before that’s released” I would again assume 5+. To be two I would expect “that’ll be out in a couple of years”, or “in a year or two”. For this ring I would write “battery life is between 12-15 hours of use, which will typically last about two years under normal use”
- Daneel_ 10mo agoThis makes it a non-starter for me. It feels utterly wasteful, and I’m basically paying USD$100 for a ring subscription every two years, plus international shipping. I can’t support that, sorry.
- layer8 10mo ago> How long does the battery last? > Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording. On average, I use it 10-20 times per day to record 3-6 second thoughts. That’s up to 2 years of usage. Two years isn’t too bad, but at $99 the price is still a bit high for that.
- defulmere 10mo ago... and then they go on to say there's no subscription involved. At $99 every 2 years it might as well be a subscription.
- embedding-shape 10mo agoNot even just a flat-fee subscription, but technically a usage based one! Since every time you activate the device it consumes power stored in the battery, it essentially turns electricity into credits and now your hardware-based device is a usage based subscription. What a time to be alive!
- wkat4242 10mo agoSure the world was destroyed but at one beautiful point in time we created a lot of value for shareholders.
- CGMthrowaway 10mo agoBrilliant way to look at it. We already do this with phones
- rkagerer 10mo agoI still would have preferred it to be serviceable. I know I'll be able to buy new batteries in 6 years, 10 years, etc. I'm suspect as to whether you'll still be able to buy this device in that time ("this device" meaning same comfortable fit, no new onboard bloat, compatible with my other ancient but beloved devices, similar focus on doing one simple thing well, privacy characteristics, etc). Apropros of nothing, is repebblering.com available?
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