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Sorry, which web shops demand governmental ID? I have never had to provide them mine in any of the countries I’ve lived in. If your concern is the webshop find

by yunohn 10mo ago

Sorry, which web shops demand governmental ID? I have never had to provide them mine in any of the countries I’ve lived in. If your concern is the webshop finding out your address, well I’m unsure how you solve this when you buy with crypto, but again ship to your home. If you have an alternative place to get it delivered for privacy, might as well do that with fiat transactions the same way.

gr4vityWall 10mo ago
> which web shops demand governmental ID? Basically all web shops in Brazil require you to give a government ID to buy anything (usually your CPF number).
- mothballed 10mo ago
  Brazil has an insane number of 'illegal' immigrants as well as people living in Favela who essentially don't even recognize the state, so I'm curious how that works. I assume it's something like the US where 10 illegals work under one social security number or a tax ID they've registered under the auspice of foreign controlled business.
  - gr4vityWall 10mo ago
    > an insane number of 'illegal' immigrants Immigrants can request a CPF (the 'national ID'). I don't think being in the country 'legally' is a requirement, that isn't enforced the way it is in the US. > people living in Favela who essentially don't even recognize the state Most people get assigned an ID at birth. And people who live in a favela often have to work outside it, and they interact with most companies/state services that aren't utilities as usual. Utilities OTOH often get MITM'd by militia/narcos these days though. > I assume it's something like the US where 10 illegals work under one social security number or a tax ID No need for anything fancy like that. The poorest people are willing to work based on verbal agreements, as the alternative is either starving, or hoping the public social security network has your back. And in case your employer requires one, that's a non-issue because, except for rare circumstances, everyone has one. Digital banking, install payments and general smartphone usage is widely popular, including favelas.
joseda-hg 10mo ago
The store usually* doesn't demand it, but your ID is tied to your cards via your bank's KYC obligations anyway * It's becoming more common for sites to ask for ID, I've gotten prompted for it buying a cellphone online, to access an old Facebook account and even Hetzner (Before ever using it) because I got flagged as high risk
- yunohn 10mo ago
  Ok, let’s go step by step through your processes, since I am tired of crypto nerds LARPing as Jason Bourne. How did you first obtain your crypto? What level of anonymity was available for that tx? Where do you store your crypto short and long term? How do you make it available for spending on online platforms? What percentage of your income and expenditures is in crypto? How do you balance between fiat and crypto anonymously? What are you buying with the crypto? Why does it need to be purchased with crypto? Where are you having it shipped? Are you faking all contact details when making the purchase? Are you completely obscuring yourself physically while collecting said package? Are you obscuring your movements along the way as well to prevent leading back to your home? Often, proponents love to portray citizens in economically ruinous governments in SAmerica as ideal usecases. Why do they need to use your specific crypto coin? Why can’t they use a locally invented (read: forked) one? It feels much more useful to regulate supply/demand where all said economic activity will take place, instead of replacing your entire net worth from a dying currency to a speculative one mostly propped up by foreigners like you who have zero skin in their local game. I could go on and on, but it is exhausting to reiterate common sense - no one ever thinks this through fully from the comfort of their air conditioned first world white collar desk job office. How are you ensuring perfect info and op sec in your crypto journey?
  - joseda-hg 10mo ago
    I never said anything about my usage of crypto, I just said that requiring an ID with digital purchases is becoming more and more common But, you are mischaracterizing me, I AM a South American migrant that did scape and has benefited from crypto for what little economic interaction I do have with my ruinous home country On the same idea, I don't need/care for perfect opsec because my threat model doesn't need it, what little I've directly bought with crypto has always been digital, so that's whay I've cared to figure out Still details on income/transactions and such, all feel a bit unnecessary for public display, but a small percentage, and my first crypto came from mining and selling back when it wasn't taken that seriously specially not in Venezuela of all places

by yunohn 10mo ago

gr4vityWall 10mo ago

> which web shops demand governmental ID? Basically all web shops in Brazil require you to give a government ID to buy anything (usually your CPF number).

mothballed 10mo ago
Brazil has an insane number of 'illegal' immigrants as well as people living in Favela who essentially don't even recognize the state, so I'm curious how that works. I assume it's something like the US where 10 illegals work under one social security number or a tax ID they've registered under the auspice of foreign controlled business.
- gr4vityWall 10mo ago
  > an insane number of 'illegal' immigrants Immigrants can request a CPF (the 'national ID'). I don't think being in the country 'legally' is a requirement, that isn't enforced the way it is in the US. > people living in Favela who essentially don't even recognize the state Most people get assigned an ID at birth. And people who live in a favela often have to work outside it, and they interact with most companies/state services that aren't utilities as usual. Utilities OTOH often get MITM'd by militia/narcos these days though. > I assume it's something like the US where 10 illegals work under one social security number or a tax ID No need for anything fancy like that. The poorest people are willing to work based on verbal agreements, as the alternative is either starving, or hoping the public social security network has your back. And in case your employer requires one, that's a non-issue because, except for rare circumstances, everyone has one. Digital banking, install payments and general smartphone usage is widely popular, including favelas.

joseda-hg 10mo ago

The store usually* doesn't demand it, but your ID is tied to your cards via your bank's KYC obligations anyway * It's becoming more common for sites to ask for ID, I've gotten prompted for it buying a cellphone online, to access an old Facebook account and even Hetzner (Before ever using it) because I got flagged as high risk

yunohn 10mo ago
Ok, let’s go step by step through your processes, since I am tired of crypto nerds LARPing as Jason Bourne. How did you first obtain your crypto? What level of anonymity was available for that tx? Where do you store your crypto short and long term? How do you make it available for spending on online platforms? What percentage of your income and expenditures is in crypto? How do you balance between fiat and crypto anonymously? What are you buying with the crypto? Why does it need to be purchased with crypto? Where are you having it shipped? Are you faking all contact details when making the purchase? Are you completely obscuring yourself physically while collecting said package? Are you obscuring your movements along the way as well to prevent leading back to your home? Often, proponents love to portray citizens in economically ruinous governments in SAmerica as ideal usecases. Why do they need to use your specific crypto coin? Why can’t they use a locally invented (read: forked) one? It feels much more useful to regulate supply/demand where all said economic activity will take place, instead of replacing your entire net worth from a dying currency to a speculative one mostly propped up by foreigners like you who have zero skin in their local game. I could go on and on, but it is exhausting to reiterate common sense - no one ever thinks this through fully from the comfort of their air conditioned first world white collar desk job office. How are you ensuring perfect info and op sec in your crypto journey?
- joseda-hg 10mo ago
  I never said anything about my usage of crypto, I just said that requiring an ID with digital purchases is becoming more and more common But, you are mischaracterizing me, I AM a South American migrant that did scape and has benefited from crypto for what little economic interaction I do have with my ruinous home country On the same idea, I don't need/care for perfect opsec because my threat model doesn't need it, what little I've directly bought with crypto has always been digital, so that's whay I've cared to figure out Still details on income/transactions and such, all feel a bit unnecessary for public display, but a small percentage, and my first crypto came from mining and selling back when it wasn't taken that seriously specially not in Venezuela of all places