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taps the sign: "Humans do not exist to be economic assets. The economy exists to provide for humans"

Ferret7446 11mo ago
The economy is not a charity, nor is it a person. But if we're going to personify it, then it exists for the benefit of those who actively participate in it. It is indifferent to those who do not participate in it. Most humans do not see themselves as existing to provide for others who either cannot or won't provide for themselves. As stated above, the economy is not a charity, it is about equal exchange. Those who have nothing to offer will receive nothing in return.
- majormajor 11mo ago
  > The economy is not a charity, nor is it a person. But if we're going to personify it, then it exists for the benefit of those who actively participate in it. It is indifferent to those who do not participate in it. > Most humans do not see themselves as existing to provide for others who either cannot or won't provide for themselves. As stated above, the economy is not a charity, it is about equal exchange. Those who have nothing to offer will receive nothing in return. The problem that this has run into throughout history has been the existence of those who don't take kindly to rules that appear to be there just to push them aside. An economy that chooses to exclude the majority of the population as "no longer needed" as so much dystopian AI-true-believer babble these days does is going to lead to some major issues when the excluded decide they don't want to simply be excluded. Society historically does not help those that the economy leaves behind exclusively out of the goodness of its heart - it also does it for self-preservation.
- jrflowers 11mo ago
  https://youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c https://youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c
- ausbah 11mo ago
  sorry i was born disabled, or purposely excluded from the economy due to societal discrimination
  - fpia 11mo ago
    disabled how? you clearly can read and write
- BobbyJo 11mo ago
  > The economy is not a charity, nor is it a person. But if we're going to personify it, then it exists for the benefit of those who actively participate in it. It is indifferent to those who do not participate in it. I think this completely ignores the role of government in the economy. By virtue of being born today, you are forced to participate in the economy. The government spends tax dollars in the economy, which it either collects from you, or spends on you, and the voting body has decided that, to some degree, the economy is indeed a charity. > Most humans do not see themselves as existing to provide for others who either cannot or won't provide for themselves. I'd disagree with the first part of that statement. Most people see themselves as good, and therefore see some level of responsibility for helping those that cannot provide for themselves. > As stated above, the economy is not a charity, it is about equal exchange. Those who have nothing to offer will receive nothing in return. Again, this ignores that the economy is, at least partially, structured by a government.
- satisfice 11mo ago
  You want a world where the streets are safe and clean, not choked with homeless people and corpses thereof. So, this “tough love” bullshit is not going to fly. The slums of Mumbai are just a taste of what’s to come in America, at this rate. Billionaires, take heed.
tbrownaw 11mo ago
The economy is an abstraction over humans interacting with eachother.
deepfriedchokes 11mo ago
Not according to our current economic system. In Capitalism, the economy exists to provide for Capital.
- marcus_holmes 11mo ago
  We can fix that. The usual method is war and/or revolution. See Piketty [0] for details. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_in_the_Twenty-First_Century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_in_the_Twenty-First_Ce...

The economy is not a charity, nor is it a person. But if we're going to personify it, then it exists for the benefit of those who actively participate in it. It is indifferent to those who do not participate in it. Most humans do not see themselves as existing to provide for others who either cannot or won't provide for themselves. As stated above, the economy is not a charity, it is about equal exchange. Those who have nothing to offer will receive nothing in return.

majormajor 11mo ago
> The economy is not a charity, nor is it a person. But if we're going to personify it, then it exists for the benefit of those who actively participate in it. It is indifferent to those who do not participate in it. > Most humans do not see themselves as existing to provide for others who either cannot or won't provide for themselves. As stated above, the economy is not a charity, it is about equal exchange. Those who have nothing to offer will receive nothing in return. The problem that this has run into throughout history has been the existence of those who don't take kindly to rules that appear to be there just to push them aside. An economy that chooses to exclude the majority of the population as "no longer needed" as so much dystopian AI-true-believer babble these days does is going to lead to some major issues when the excluded decide they don't want to simply be excluded. Society historically does not help those that the economy leaves behind exclusively out of the goodness of its heart - it also does it for self-preservation.
jrflowers 11mo ago
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c https://youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c
ausbah 11mo ago
sorry i was born disabled, or purposely excluded from the economy due to societal discrimination
- fpia 11mo ago
  disabled how? you clearly can read and write
BobbyJo 11mo ago
> The economy is not a charity, nor is it a person. But if we're going to personify it, then it exists for the benefit of those who actively participate in it. It is indifferent to those who do not participate in it. I think this completely ignores the role of government in the economy. By virtue of being born today, you are forced to participate in the economy. The government spends tax dollars in the economy, which it either collects from you, or spends on you, and the voting body has decided that, to some degree, the economy is indeed a charity. > Most humans do not see themselves as existing to provide for others who either cannot or won't provide for themselves. I'd disagree with the first part of that statement. Most people see themselves as good, and therefore see some level of responsibility for helping those that cannot provide for themselves. > As stated above, the economy is not a charity, it is about equal exchange. Those who have nothing to offer will receive nothing in return. Again, this ignores that the economy is, at least partially, structured by a government.
satisfice 11mo ago
You want a world where the streets are safe and clean, not choked with homeless people and corpses thereof. So, this “tough love” bullshit is not going to fly. The slums of Mumbai are just a taste of what’s to come in America, at this rate. Billionaires, take heed.

tbrownaw 11mo ago

The economy is an abstraction over humans interacting with eachother.

deepfriedchokes 11mo ago

Not according to our current economic system. In Capitalism, the economy exists to provide for Capital.

marcus_holmes 11mo ago
We can fix that. The usual method is war and/or revolution. See Piketty [0] for details. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_in_the_Twenty-First_Century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_in_the_Twenty-First_Ce...