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A multi-inhertiance system is certainly not something somebody who "was thinking in C" would ever come up with. This sounds more like a true C++ mess.

by uecker 11mo ago

throwaway2037 11mo ago
I worked on a pure C system early in my career. They implemented multiple inheritance (a bit like Perl/Python MRO style) in pure C. It was nuts, but they didn't abuse it, so it worked OK. Also, serious question: Are they any GUI toolkits that do not use multiple inheritance? Even Java Swing uses multiple inheritance through interfaces. (I guess DotNet does something similar.) Qt has it all over the place.
- nottorp 11mo ago
  One could say toolkits done in C++ use multiple inheritance because C++ doesn't have interfaces though.
  - throwaway2037 11mo ago
    This is a good point. It would be better for me to say pure abstract base classes... that simulate interfaces in C++. That said, I can say from experience that Qt does more than multi-inheritance with pure abstract base classes. I think the QPainter class is mixed into a few places, and that class is fuckin' major -- it is responsible to paint every (cross platform) pixel in the whole framework.
- aninteger 11mo ago
  The best example I can think of is the Win32 controls UI (user32/Create window/RegisterClass) in C. You likely can't read the source code for this but you can see how Wine did it or Wine alternatives (like NetBSD's PEACE runtime, now abandoned). Actually the only toolkit that I know that sort of copied this style is Nakst's Luigi toolkit (also in C). Neither really used inheritance and use composition with "message passing" sent to different controls.
- WD-42 11mo ago
  GTK does not support multiple inheritance afaik.
  - aninteger 11mo ago
    It doesn't but it definitely "implements" a single inheritance tree (with up casting/down casting) which I believe Xt toolkits (like Motif) also did.
- uecker 11mo ago
  I take this back ;-) People come up with crazy things. Still I would not call this "C thinking". Building object-oriented code in C is common though and works nicely.

A multi-inhertiance system is certainly not something somebody who "was thinking in C" would ever come up with. This sounds more like a true C++ mess.

by uecker 11mo ago

A multi-inhertiance system is certainly not something somebody who "was thinking in C" would ever come up with. This sounds more like a true C++ mess.

throwaway2037 11mo ago

I worked on a pure C system early in my career. They implemented multiple inheritance (a bit like Perl/Python MRO style) in pure C. It was nuts, but they didn't abuse it, so it worked OK. Also, serious question: Are they any GUI toolkits that do not use multiple inheritance? Even Java Swing uses multiple inheritance through interfaces. (I guess DotNet does something similar.) Qt has it all over the place.

nottorp 11mo ago
One could say toolkits done in C++ use multiple inheritance because C++ doesn't have interfaces though.
- throwaway2037 11mo ago
  This is a good point. It would be better for me to say pure abstract base classes... that simulate interfaces in C++. That said, I can say from experience that Qt does more than multi-inheritance with pure abstract base classes. I think the QPainter class is mixed into a few places, and that class is fuckin' major -- it is responsible to paint every (cross platform) pixel in the whole framework.
aninteger 11mo ago
The best example I can think of is the Win32 controls UI (user32/Create window/RegisterClass) in C. You likely can't read the source code for this but you can see how Wine did it or Wine alternatives (like NetBSD's PEACE runtime, now abandoned). Actually the only toolkit that I know that sort of copied this style is Nakst's Luigi toolkit (also in C). Neither really used inheritance and use composition with "message passing" sent to different controls.
WD-42 11mo ago
GTK does not support multiple inheritance afaik.
- aninteger 11mo ago
  It doesn't but it definitely "implements" a single inheritance tree (with up casting/down casting) which I believe Xt toolkits (like Motif) also did.
uecker 11mo ago
I take this back ;-) People come up with crazy things. Still I would not call this "C thinking". Building object-oriented code in C is common though and works nicely.