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1, 8 and 9 leaving is expected. They failed at their jobs. 3 and 4 literally don't matter. 5, 6 and 7 probably left / are going to leave because they got news

by internet2000 10mo ago

1, 8 and 9 leaving is expected. They failed at their jobs. 3 and 4 literally don't matter. 5, 6 and 7 probably left / are going to leave because they got news they wouldn't get the CEO role once Cook retires. 2 is the big surprise that raises the most eyebrows. Seems it's mostly succession drama with a side of failure @ AI.

jakeydus 10mo ago
Also the rumor I heard from a friend at Apple (hearsay, obviously, and an anecdote to boot) was that Alan Dye was pretty unpopular among designers.
- imron 10mo ago
  And users too!
- CamperBob2 10mo ago
  Yeah, I'd definitely classify Dye in the "failed at their jobs" category alongside 1, 8, and 9. Bad AI is a venial sin at Apple, but bad design is mortal. Or at least, it used to be.
- jjtheblunt 10mo ago
  i wonder if Dye is the self-important personality who parked his audi r8 in handicapped parking routinely in front of IL1. if not Dye, then apologies to Dye for looking like that person. also, there's this. https://9to5mac.com/2025/12/04/gruber-apple-employees-giddy-about-alan-dyes-departure/ https://9to5mac.com/2025/12/04/gruber-apple-employees-giddy-...
isleyaardvark 10mo ago
And 7 left January 1st, so I don’t know if I would include them in talks of an exodus.
kshacker 10mo ago
I was reading and 2 (Srouji) is 61 years old. While that is not too old, but that does explain why he may not be choice for next CEO (besides any other things). You want someone to helm the ship for a decade.
hn_throwaway_99 10mo ago
It's worth reading Gruber's writeup on Dye's departure - it really sounds like it will be a net positive for Apple that he's leaving: https://daringfireball.net/2025/12/bad_dye_job https://daringfireball.net/2025/12/bad_dye_job
astrange 10mo ago
> 1, 8 and 9 leaving is expected. They failed at their jobs. Siri search is pretty good. (You mostly see it as the autocomplete in the Safari address bar.)

jakeydus 10mo ago

Also the rumor I heard from a friend at Apple (hearsay, obviously, and an anecdote to boot) was that Alan Dye was pretty unpopular among designers.

imron 10mo ago
And users too!
CamperBob2 10mo ago
Yeah, I'd definitely classify Dye in the "failed at their jobs" category alongside 1, 8, and 9. Bad AI is a venial sin at Apple, but bad design is mortal. Or at least, it used to be.
jjtheblunt 10mo ago
i wonder if Dye is the self-important personality who parked his audi r8 in handicapped parking routinely in front of IL1. if not Dye, then apologies to Dye for looking like that person. also, there's this. https://9to5mac.com/2025/12/04/gruber-apple-employees-giddy-about-alan-dyes-departure/ https://9to5mac.com/2025/12/04/gruber-apple-employees-giddy-...

isleyaardvark 10mo ago

And 7 left January 1st, so I don’t know if I would include them in talks of an exodus.

kshacker 10mo ago

I was reading and 2 (Srouji) is 61 years old. While that is not too old, but that does explain why he may not be choice for next CEO (besides any other things). You want someone to helm the ship for a decade.

hn_throwaway_99 10mo ago

It's worth reading Gruber's writeup on Dye's departure - it really sounds like it will be a net positive for Apple that he's leaving: https://daringfireball.net/2025/12/bad_dye_job https://daringfireball.net/2025/12/bad_dye_job

astrange 10mo ago

> 1, 8 and 9 leaving is expected. They failed at their jobs. Siri search is pretty good. (You mostly see it as the autocomplete in the Safari address bar.)