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Exactly. It reminds me of all of the maundering about being "forced to work" (ie. having to earn some income in order to purchase some of the bounty with which
by taneq 11mo ago
Exactly. It reminds me of all of the maundering about being "forced to work" (ie. having to earn some income in order to purchase some of the bounty with which we're surrounded) which usually comes along with the "hunter-gathering was a life of luxury" mindset. Literally nothing is stopping anyone from walking off into the forest and living off berries and grubs, except that (a) they don't have the required knowledge to live off the land, and (b) they're not willing to do so, because (c) it's a miserable existence compared with living in a house with hot and cold running potable water, strong walls and a lockable door, electric amenities, and a comfy bed and sofas. Nobody's forced to work, we choose to because all of the above are nice things that are worth some effort to maintain.
- eudamoniac 11mo agoLiving in the forest is illegal.
- derektank 11mo agoYou can camp indefinitely on BLM forest land as long as you’re willing to move your camp site every two weeks
- pclmulqdq 11mo agoMost nomadic cultures did not move this fast. You have to be spending a lot of time moving if you do this.
- marssaxman 11mo agoYou're not going to grow any food or hunt anything that way, though. It's not the same.
- derektank 11mo agoA state small game hunting license is very cheap
- marssaxman 11mo agoAnd very limited.
- WalterBright 11mo agoTV tells me that hunting wabbits is not very productive.
- antod 11mo agoEspecially the wascally ones.
- jandrewrogers 11mo agoNot in the US. There is a lot of BLM land if you want to live a nomadic lifestyle in the middle of nowhere.
- lukan 11mo agoFor hunting in a way you want? Not having to pay taxes? Raise your children in the nomadic hunter livestyle? I think schooling (and lots of other things) is mandatory in the US as well. And child protection service etc. exist. So it might be easier in the US to cosplay as a forest nomad for some time (and I know some people did it as eremits for a bit longer) but a real nomadic livestyle means living with other people together in a tribe. That does not work (just the rule to move camp after 2 weeks prevents that).
- bombcar 11mo agoRead into it; it happens, and CPS isn’t usually involved until it’s well into horror-show territory. It’s usually around a cult or similar; we don’t have much in the way of hereditary nomadic but even those do exist.
- lukan 11mo agoI think I did read about it and met folks who are into that. I have never been in the US, though, but the main complaint I got is pretty much, state laws make it impossible. But I am open for reading suggestions.
- bombcar 11mo agoThere’s what is explicitly legal, there is what you can get away with, and there is moving between jurisdictions before they even know you’re there. The US is large and if you keep your head down and homeschool to some level of competence I bet you could go many generations- especially if you were willing to blend in as necessary.
- jandrewrogers 11mo ago
- marssaxman 11mo ago> Literally nothing is stopping anyone Nothing but the power of the state, which has claimed sovereignty over all the land, regulates what you can and cannot do with it, and will use deadly force against you if you fail to comply. I once added up the total calorie content of all the yearly hunting it is legal to do where I live, if a hunter were maximally successful, and it would get one person through May. All the land one could reasonably sustain a living on has long since been claimed, those claims being backed up by (you guessed it) the power of the state. The only land left that one can just walk off into is the land nobody wanted during the settlement period, because they could not find any way to live on it.
- WalterBright 11mo agoThe first labor-saving invention was theft.