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The framework model is the reasonable approach to people being finnicky about their laptop specs. You can't sustain "I want it just so" and "it needs to be a cn

The framework model is the reasonable approach to people being finnicky about their laptop specs. You can't sustain "I want it just so" and "it needs to be a cnc-machined glued together brick, engineered to the last gramme" at the same time, without a step change in how we build hardware, but the framework comes pretty close If linux power management got a bit better, and there was a good arm chip, it would be a great machine. Now it's just pretty good

maccard 10mo ago
> If linux power management got a bit better Honestly this is the thing that holds me back from using not a mac. My MacBook is always at the same battery level when I open it as it was when I closed it. My windows laptop regularly decides to do _something_ overnight and is dead when I try to use it, about once a week.
- no-stegosaur 10mo ago
  Microsoft had this shitty idea of "InstantGo" aka "InstantOn" aka "Modern Standby" aka "Connected Standby" (the namings alone give away whose idea it was). They think that people cannot wait the like 1 second when opening a laptop to return from suspend2ram / s3, and they think that laptops should be connected to networks all the time. What for I have no idea, they're not phones after all. So now laptops do not actually sleep anymore, at all. The merely run in a low power profile. The worst is that support for S3 got worse in many bios/uefi implementations, where either it doesn't work properly anymore or it is gone entirely :(
viraptor 10mo ago
Maybe soon; https://www.notebookcheck.net/Framework-Laptop-13-gets-ARM-processor-with-12-cores-via-upgrade-kit.1177930.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Framework-Laptop-13-gets-ARM-p...
class3shock 10mo ago
The power management is one of my biggest issues with my Framework 16 but I am hoping it gets better over time with newer linux releases as it has for other laptops I've had.
arresin 10mo ago
But the trackpad, the rigidity, the screen wobble, the battery life. It’s annoying. I wish I could just buy a framework and stop this boring chore. But there’s nothing out there right now.
- mft_ 10mo ago
  And, sadly, also the price. I’d also love to get one but when I last needed a new laptop it was about 60% more expensive than the similarly-spaced Zenbook OLED I bought instead.
- schmorptron 10mo ago
  I wonder if the rigidity could be improved while staying modular, maybe just use many more screws? I don't mind undoing more than 5 screws for the bottom to come off, make it 20 and it's still totally fine.
  - rangestransform 10mo ago
    IIRC from one of their videos, they mentioned that they deliberately use cast aluminium instead of CNC machined like the macbook. If they sacrifice build quality for sustainability deliberately, I don't see how they could compete with Apple.

maccard 10mo ago

> If linux power management got a bit better Honestly this is the thing that holds me back from using not a mac. My MacBook is always at the same battery level when I open it as it was when I closed it. My windows laptop regularly decides to do _something_ overnight and is dead when I try to use it, about once a week.

no-stegosaur 10mo ago
Microsoft had this shitty idea of "InstantGo" aka "InstantOn" aka "Modern Standby" aka "Connected Standby" (the namings alone give away whose idea it was). They think that people cannot wait the like 1 second when opening a laptop to return from suspend2ram / s3, and they think that laptops should be connected to networks all the time. What for I have no idea, they're not phones after all. So now laptops do not actually sleep anymore, at all. The merely run in a low power profile. The worst is that support for S3 got worse in many bios/uefi implementations, where either it doesn't work properly anymore or it is gone entirely :(

viraptor 10mo ago

Maybe soon; https://www.notebookcheck.net/Framework-Laptop-13-gets-ARM-processor-with-12-cores-via-upgrade-kit.1177930.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Framework-Laptop-13-gets-ARM-p...

class3shock 10mo ago

The power management is one of my biggest issues with my Framework 16 but I am hoping it gets better over time with newer linux releases as it has for other laptops I've had.

arresin 10mo ago

But the trackpad, the rigidity, the screen wobble, the battery life. It’s annoying. I wish I could just buy a framework and stop this boring chore. But there’s nothing out there right now.

mft_ 10mo ago
And, sadly, also the price. I’d also love to get one but when I last needed a new laptop it was about 60% more expensive than the similarly-spaced Zenbook OLED I bought instead.
schmorptron 10mo ago
I wonder if the rigidity could be improved while staying modular, maybe just use many more screws? I don't mind undoing more than 5 screws for the bottom to come off, make it 20 and it's still totally fine.
- rangestransform 10mo ago
  IIRC from one of their videos, they mentioned that they deliberately use cast aluminium instead of CNC machined like the macbook. If they sacrifice build quality for sustainability deliberately, I don't see how they could compete with Apple.