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Putin will happily take over your home, even if you thought Viet Nam was a waste.

jasonvorhe 11mo ago
Had to imagine Putin moving into someone's 45sqm flat in the suburbs after his evil empire invaded somewhere. Had to chuckle, thanks for that.
- hkpack 11mo ago
  Yeah, it will technically not be Putin himself, but someone from russia's poor regions, while you will be forcibly send to the grinder. This all happened multiple times, and the only reason you can chuckle is ignorance.
  - jasonvorhe 11mo ago
    I chuckled because of the s/Russia/Putin/g nonsense everywhere. I'm not laughing at anyone's expense if they forcibly lose their home, no matter where and under which circumstances.
    - hkpack 11mo ago
      You see, millions are already killed in the biggest war in Europe since WW2 and it looks like this is just the prelude. Russia is threatening to fight Europe as of yesterday, continue to increase weapon production and militarisation. It is obvious that it just cannot stop as its economy and social order is switching more and more to the war-time. China backs russia up and officially declaring that it cannot allow Russia to lose. The alliance which was created specifically to stop this scenario is now being neutralised by US withdrawing from it. And you still call it "Russia/Putin nonsense". Do you live somewhere where you feel isolated from all of this? Please tell me so I can go there as well. Because at the place where I live - Russians drones are flying over important infrastructure mapping it out without government/military being able to stop it. Russians propaganda fills social media, and politicians are corrupted by russia without hiding it too much.
      - jasonvorhe 11mo ago
        You misunderstand. I'm not against reporting about Russia. The oversimplification of reducing everything down to "Putin this, Putin that" is my issue. Imagine me saying everything the EU is doing is explicitly because of Ursel. It's stupid, ignorant and reminds me of Trump Derangement Syndrome which had a similar effect on reporting about US issues. I live in Germany so I'm fucked either way. I'm also aware of NATO expansion until a point where Russia couldn't ignore it anymore. You think Russia will attack Europe, I think the West is keen on fighting a war against Russia. I don't subscribe to any of the narratives you presented, especially since I think it obvious that its the West that finds itself having to wage a war because their currencies, social order and demographics needing a reset. NATO being a defensive alliance is a joke. Since we're unlikely to come closer to an understanding I'll refrain from going further. Sometimes it's just easier to agree to disagree. May we all live through this somehow.
        hkpack 11mo ago
        > You think Russia will attack Europe, I think the West is keen on fighting a war against Russia. And the way it was keen on fighting a war is (check notes) _increase economic ties to the point that the whole of Germany's economic growth was dependent on Russian' gas_? Or to reduce military spending year over the year? Or to stop conscription in all countries? It is completely a wild take for me to hear that the west was keen to fight a war with nuclear power by the means of reducing its fighting abilities to almost zero while the other side militarises? Am I having some crazy dream?
        yakshaving_jgt 11mo ago
        > I'm also aware of NATO expansion until a point where Russia couldn't ignore it anymore. Are you? Tell us — for how long has NATO been on russia's border? > You think Russia will attack Europe No, we have observed that russia has already attacked Europe.
        flohofwoe 11mo ago
        > I live in Germany so I'm fucked either way. Honest question: why don't you emigrate to Russia since you seem to admire it so much? They are specifically looking for people who 'share Russian values', and Germany is on the 'white list' - so acquiring citizenship should be really easy and you don't need to live in a country you apparently seem to hate. Here's how it works: https://russianresidency.com/ https://russianresidency.com/ https://mid.ru/upload/medialibrary/aef/94mfg4ehws6kav1nk8btstf0t4h0e5xt/%D0%9F%D0%90%D0%9C%D0%AF%D0%A2%D0%9A%D0%90-IG1_1%20ENG.pdf https://mid.ru/upload/medialibrary/aef/94mfg4ehws6kav1nk8bts...
Nextgrid 11mo ago
You mean the home of a boomer that you have to continuously pay an ever-increasing share of your wages for so he can just sit there and live off your labor? I don't think you'll find much sympathy for that class among the people this reform is targeting.
samdoesnothing 11mo ago
Haha you think the youth own homes? It'll be young people dying so old people get richer just like every other war.

Had to imagine Putin moving into someone's 45sqm flat in the suburbs after his evil empire invaded somewhere. Had to chuckle, thanks for that.

hkpack 11mo ago
Yeah, it will technically not be Putin himself, but someone from russia's poor regions, while you will be forcibly send to the grinder. This all happened multiple times, and the only reason you can chuckle is ignorance.
- jasonvorhe 11mo ago
  I chuckled because of the s/Russia/Putin/g nonsense everywhere. I'm not laughing at anyone's expense if they forcibly lose their home, no matter where and under which circumstances.
  - hkpack 11mo ago
    You see, millions are already killed in the biggest war in Europe since WW2 and it looks like this is just the prelude. Russia is threatening to fight Europe as of yesterday, continue to increase weapon production and militarisation. It is obvious that it just cannot stop as its economy and social order is switching more and more to the war-time. China backs russia up and officially declaring that it cannot allow Russia to lose. The alliance which was created specifically to stop this scenario is now being neutralised by US withdrawing from it. And you still call it "Russia/Putin nonsense". Do you live somewhere where you feel isolated from all of this? Please tell me so I can go there as well. Because at the place where I live - Russians drones are flying over important infrastructure mapping it out without government/military being able to stop it. Russians propaganda fills social media, and politicians are corrupted by russia without hiding it too much.
    - jasonvorhe 11mo ago
      You misunderstand. I'm not against reporting about Russia. The oversimplification of reducing everything down to "Putin this, Putin that" is my issue. Imagine me saying everything the EU is doing is explicitly because of Ursel. It's stupid, ignorant and reminds me of Trump Derangement Syndrome which had a similar effect on reporting about US issues. I live in Germany so I'm fucked either way. I'm also aware of NATO expansion until a point where Russia couldn't ignore it anymore. You think Russia will attack Europe, I think the West is keen on fighting a war against Russia. I don't subscribe to any of the narratives you presented, especially since I think it obvious that its the West that finds itself having to wage a war because their currencies, social order and demographics needing a reset. NATO being a defensive alliance is a joke. Since we're unlikely to come closer to an understanding I'll refrain from going further. Sometimes it's just easier to agree to disagree. May we all live through this somehow.
      - hkpack 11mo ago
        > You think Russia will attack Europe, I think the West is keen on fighting a war against Russia. And the way it was keen on fighting a war is (check notes) _increase economic ties to the point that the whole of Germany's economic growth was dependent on Russian' gas_? Or to reduce military spending year over the year? Or to stop conscription in all countries? It is completely a wild take for me to hear that the west was keen to fight a war with nuclear power by the means of reducing its fighting abilities to almost zero while the other side militarises? Am I having some crazy dream?
      - yakshaving_jgt 11mo ago
        > I'm also aware of NATO expansion until a point where Russia couldn't ignore it anymore. Are you? Tell us — for how long has NATO been on russia's border? > You think Russia will attack Europe No, we have observed that russia has already attacked Europe.
      - flohofwoe 11mo ago
        > I live in Germany so I'm fucked either way. Honest question: why don't you emigrate to Russia since you seem to admire it so much? They are specifically looking for people who 'share Russian values', and Germany is on the 'white list' - so acquiring citizenship should be really easy and you don't need to live in a country you apparently seem to hate. Here's how it works: https://russianresidency.com/ https://russianresidency.com/ https://mid.ru/upload/medialibrary/aef/94mfg4ehws6kav1nk8btstf0t4h0e5xt/%D0%9F%D0%90%D0%9C%D0%AF%D0%A2%D0%9A%D0%90-IG1_1%20ENG.pdf https://mid.ru/upload/medialibrary/aef/94mfg4ehws6kav1nk8bts...

Nextgrid 11mo ago

You mean the home of a boomer that you have to continuously pay an ever-increasing share of your wages for so he can just sit there and live off your labor? I don't think you'll find much sympathy for that class among the people this reform is targeting.

samdoesnothing 11mo ago

Haha you think the youth own homes? It'll be young people dying so old people get richer just like every other war.