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We've come a long way with these image models, and the things you can do with paltry 6B are super impressive. The community has adopted this model wholesale, an

We've come a long way with these image models, and the things you can do with paltry 6B are super impressive. The community has adopted this model wholesale, and left Flux(2) by the way side. It helps that Z-Image isn't censored, whereas BFL (makers of Flux 2) dedicated like a fith of their press release talking about how "safe" (read: censored and lobotomized) their model is.

rfoo 10mo ago
But this is a CCP model, would it refuse to generate Xi?
- vunderba 10mo ago
  You tell me. https://imgur.com/a/7FR3uT1 https://imgur.com/a/7FR3uT1
- CamperBob2 10mo ago
  It will generate anything. Xi/Pooh porn, Taylor Swift getting squashed by a tank at Tiananmen Square, whatever, no censorship at all. With simplistic prompts, you quickly conclude that the small model size is the only limitation. Once you realize how good it is with detailed prompts, though, you find that you can get a lot more diversity out of it than you initially thought you could. Absolute game-changer of a model IMO. It is competitive with Nano Banana Pro in some respects, and that's saying something.
  - cubefox 10mo ago
    I could imagine the Chinese government is not terribly interested in enforcing its censorship laws when this would conflict with boosting Chinese AI. Overregulation can be a significant inhibitor to innovation and competitiveness, as we often see in Europe.
    - CamperBob2 10mo ago
      I'm sure they're also aware that few of their own citizens are in a position to run the model themselves, and that it's easy enough to use the system prompt to censor hosted copies for domestic consumption. Censoring open-source models really doesn't make a lot of sense for China. Which could also be why local Deepseek instances are relatively easy to jailbreak.
Auracle 10mo ago
To be fair, a lot of that was about their online service and not the model itself. It can definitely generate breasts. That said I do find the focus on “safety” tiring.
ForOldHack 10mo ago
Explain lobotomizing a Image Generator? Modern problems require modern terms.
SV_BubbleTime 10mo ago
> whereas BFL (makers of Flux 2) dedicated like a fith of their press release talking about how "safe" (read: censored and lobotomized) their model is. Agreed, but let’s not confuse what it is. Talking about safety is just “WE WONT EMBARRASS YOU IF YOU INVEST IN US”.
pferdone 10mo ago
It‘s mainly due to system requirements that Flux.2-dev doesn’t get same usage as Z-Image. A 5090 needs about a minute to generate an image with a basic workflow with Flux.2-dev. But prompt adherence and scene/character consistency in edit mode is (way) ahead of Qwen-Edit-2509 if you ask me.

rfoo 10mo ago

But this is a CCP model, would it refuse to generate Xi?

vunderba 10mo ago
You tell me. https://imgur.com/a/7FR3uT1 https://imgur.com/a/7FR3uT1
CamperBob2 10mo ago
It will generate anything. Xi/Pooh porn, Taylor Swift getting squashed by a tank at Tiananmen Square, whatever, no censorship at all. With simplistic prompts, you quickly conclude that the small model size is the only limitation. Once you realize how good it is with detailed prompts, though, you find that you can get a lot more diversity out of it than you initially thought you could. Absolute game-changer of a model IMO. It is competitive with Nano Banana Pro in some respects, and that's saying something.
- cubefox 10mo ago
  I could imagine the Chinese government is not terribly interested in enforcing its censorship laws when this would conflict with boosting Chinese AI. Overregulation can be a significant inhibitor to innovation and competitiveness, as we often see in Europe.
  - CamperBob2 10mo ago
    I'm sure they're also aware that few of their own citizens are in a position to run the model themselves, and that it's easy enough to use the system prompt to censor hosted copies for domestic consumption. Censoring open-source models really doesn't make a lot of sense for China. Which could also be why local Deepseek instances are relatively easy to jailbreak.

Auracle 10mo ago

To be fair, a lot of that was about their online service and not the model itself. It can definitely generate breasts. That said I do find the focus on “safety” tiring.

ForOldHack 10mo ago

Explain lobotomizing a Image Generator? Modern problems require modern terms.

SV_BubbleTime 10mo ago

> whereas BFL (makers of Flux 2) dedicated like a fith of their press release talking about how "safe" (read: censored and lobotomized) their model is. Agreed, but let’s not confuse what it is. Talking about safety is just “WE WONT EMBARRASS YOU IF YOU INVEST IN US”.

pferdone 10mo ago

It‘s mainly due to system requirements that Flux.2-dev doesn’t get same usage as Z-Image. A 5090 needs about a minute to generate an image with a basic workflow with Flux.2-dev. But prompt adherence and scene/character consistency in edit mode is (way) ahead of Qwen-Edit-2509 if you ask me.