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Yes, this: "The order established by the Abrahamic faiths and western philosophies (which were heavily influenced by pre-existing middle eastern cultures or wor

Yes, this: "The order established by the Abrahamic faiths and western philosophies (which were heavily influenced by pre-existing middle eastern cultures or works) has been useful for demonstrating what ideas work and what don’t. People who want to believe in their own false narratives about alternatives will experience a rude awakening, and blame their failures on their “enemies”, like many in western cultures are doing now to their detractors. What hasn’t worked is pretending that oligopoly and monopoly are capitalism; too much influence is given to a few sources, and too many resources are spent or wasted on them." is a potential flashpoint I think. Very sage as well! Excellent. Also so true about India, and -- Indonesia. Russia, depends, exactly. It sounds ridiculous but it may make sense for Israel to become officially part of the US empire, it already functions similarly unofficially. Controversial and nuanced, yes. Apologies. "LATAM and Africa will continue the blame and social manipulation games, as per usual." I don't think so. I think they are some of the wildcards. Things could change fast. US domestic fortification focused, China lacks reach to disrupt - could lead to grassroots populism that upends old orders, and combined with shifting fortunes and new tech, could be formidable. Wild card. Maybe you're right, but I just feel like there's more contemporary potential there that hasn't been expressed yet. Oceania may end up pillaged. Or it may continue to be "less than relevant" lol. Idk. Indonesia is all important...probably. "The UK will coast on via indirect manipulation as always since it gave up global supremacy." Sounds right, but idk, super interested to know more.

nis0s 11mo ago
> It sounds ridiculous but it may make sense for Israel to become officially part of the US empire, it already functions similarly unofficially. That’s not what I was saying, and it doesn’t make sense to say at all.
- keepamovin 11mo ago
  I know that's not what you were saying. I was adding. And I know it doesn't sounds sensical Fret not, you are hereby disclaimed of all association, sought or unsought, with this dangerous idea.
  - nis0s 11mo ago
    What’s dangerous about this idea? It’s simply wrong because let’s think back to why people formed nation states. The core ideas are related to cultural identity and protection for who you classify as your people. The Jewish people have always suffered by being targeted because of their religion or culture, that’s why it makes sense that they should have their own country. What do you think countries are for? It’s an establishment of collective will and power for navigating systemic forces. There’s a lot more to this, but then we’re just taking about political science and history. In general, groups of people with distinct characteristics need to have safe havens, they cannot rely on others for protections. People need to protect their countries, that’s where they’re safest.
    - keepamovin 11mo ago
      True, that's the public motivating/organizing ideas. But the private/governing calculus about what's in the best interest may be different or larger. Small countries need protection, large countries need reach.

nis0s 11mo ago

> It sounds ridiculous but it may make sense for Israel to become officially part of the US empire, it already functions similarly unofficially. That’s not what I was saying, and it doesn’t make sense to say at all.

keepamovin 11mo ago
I know that's not what you were saying. I was adding. And I know it doesn't sounds sensical Fret not, you are hereby disclaimed of all association, sought or unsought, with this dangerous idea.
- nis0s 11mo ago
  What’s dangerous about this idea? It’s simply wrong because let’s think back to why people formed nation states. The core ideas are related to cultural identity and protection for who you classify as your people. The Jewish people have always suffered by being targeted because of their religion or culture, that’s why it makes sense that they should have their own country. What do you think countries are for? It’s an establishment of collective will and power for navigating systemic forces. There’s a lot more to this, but then we’re just taking about political science and history. In general, groups of people with distinct characteristics need to have safe havens, they cannot rely on others for protections. People need to protect their countries, that’s where they’re safest.
  - keepamovin 11mo ago
    True, that's the public motivating/organizing ideas. But the private/governing calculus about what's in the best interest may be different or larger. Small countries need protection, large countries need reach.