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Was the kidney donor already dead, from something other than rabies, or were still alive for donation and later died?
by mikkupikku 11mo ago
Was the kidney donor already dead, from something other than rabies, or were still alive for donation and later died?
- m-hodges 11mo agoThe first half of the first sentence of the article: > A man died of rabies after getting a kidney transplant from another man who died of the virus
- mikkupikku 11mo agoYeah I phrases that wrong, I'm wondering if the donor was alive or if they harvested organs from somebody that was dead from rabies.
- thaumasiotes 11mo agoThey harvested organs from somebody who had died of rabies.
- toast0 11mo agoThat sentence doesn't indicate the sequence of events. Both of the following sequences match the sentence; thus the confusion. Sequence 1: Day 0) Donor contributes kidney to donee Day 10) Donor dies of rabies Day 15) Donee dies of rabies Sequence 2 (the incident sequence) Day 0) Donor shows symptoms of rabies (undiagnosed) Day 2) Donor dies of rabies (diagnosed as heart failure) Day 2+?) Donor's kidney is installed in donee Day N) Donee dies from rabies Day N+M) Donor's death is reevaluted and rabies is diagnosed
- mistersquid 11mo ago> Was the kidney donor already dead, from something other than rabies, or were still alive for donation and later died? FTA > About five weeks later, the man started to hallucinate, have trouble walking and swallowing, and had a stiff neck, according to the C.D.C. report. > Two days after his symptoms started, he collapsed of what was presumed to be a heart attack, the report said. The man was unresponsive and taken to a hospital, where he died. > Several of his organs were donated, including his left kidney.
- Arwill 11mo agoI thought only organs of people dying in accidents are donated, and not someone's dying from an illness.
- toast0 11mo agoI think the criteria for donation are most easily met by people who die as a result of something like a vehicle collision, but an otherwise healthy person who experiences sudden heart failure may have viable organs... From the reporting, this donor was not otherwise healthy, but maybe the symptoms were not known at the time or dismissed for some reason.
- spwa4 11mo agoNot really. Organs from people who have died are almost always nonviable. So when it comes to vehicle collision victims, only people who are slowly dieing of internal hemorrhaging are used. Sudden heart failure organs are bad for two reasons: first, if the heart actually fails, you have minutes before organs are nonviable. Second, the medication that's used for trying to keep the heart beating will actually accelerate death, including organ death, if it doesn't work. Most organs come from from people, usually braindead, who are definitely going to die, but you have days or at least hours before the body actually loses the fight. And even then the extraction process needs to be started quickly, because in the process of dieing the body will, as it's losing blood, ie. power and oxygen, one-by-one cut off blood flow from organs to try to keep the heart, lungs and brain alive. Most organs that have had their blood flow cut off by the body can't be transplanted, so extraction needs to happen before that point. So that was probably the case here.
- spwa4 11mo ago(wait until you figure out the answer to the other question ... "wait, if organs after death are not used, nonviable, then what happens if I donate my body to science" ?)
- giarc 11mo ago
- mannykannot 11mo agoThe donor died from rabies, and then several of his organs were donated. Furthermore: "Doctors reviewed records about the kidney donor and learned that the Idaho man’s family had disclosed the skunk scratch to doctors when his organs were being donated, the report said."
- michael1999 11mo agoThere are financial incentives to find/make organ donors.