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In Maple sin(x) is "sin(x)", in Mathematica it's "Sin[x]", ewww

by jjgreen 11mo ago

aleph_minus_one 11mo ago
In my opinion, Wolfram/Mathematica is more consistent internally, while Maple is more consistent with the usual mathematical notation.
- DonHopkins 11mo ago
  > while Maple is more consistent with the usual mathematical notation I can't tell if you're saying that as if it's a good thing, or a bad thing.
  - aleph_minus_one 11mo ago
    It's not about good nor bad, but about the different trade-offs that these two CASs made. What is more important for you is something that you can only answer for yourself.
pmkary 11mo ago
I actually loved this idea so much that every language I make, I try to do the same. The point of it is that typing ( requires shift, while [ does not. And you have no idea when you have tunnel syndrome, how much it hurts each time you write a (. While it’s ugly, the hand thanks you for it.
- SSLy 11mo ago
  > The point of it is that typing ( requires shift, while [ does not. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xkeyboard-config/xkeyboard-config/-/blob/8aa73d2c9a5a7391538c932e265f89c416b53138/rules/base.extras.xml#L1925 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xkeyboard-config/xkeyboard-co... Now, I really could've used something like this on macOS… Karabiner to the rescue https://genesy.github.io/karabiner-complex-rules-generator/#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 https://genesy.github.io/karabiner-complex-rules-generator/#...
  - esafak 11mo ago
    As everybody knows ...
    - SSLy 11mo ago
      I use(d) arch btw
- zwaps 11mo ago
  Ironically, on ISO keyboards, [] need an ALT so even more pain
superposeur 11mo ago
The Maple syntax may superficially seem easier but actually leads to more problems in practice. The point of the [ ] is that argument of a function is logically distinct from algebraically grouping terms in an equation. Also, Mathematica is a camel case language since underscore is for pattern recognition, hence the capitalization of function names. Personally, I’ve found every little Mathematica design feature to be incredibly well thought out, logical, and consistently implemented over the whole of the language.

In Maple sin(x) is "sin(x)", in Mathematica it's "Sin[x]", ewww

by jjgreen 11mo ago

In Maple sin(x) is "sin(x)", in Mathematica it's "Sin[x]", ewww

In my opinion, Wolfram/Mathematica is more consistent internally, while Maple is more consistent with the usual mathematical notation.

DonHopkins 11mo ago
> while Maple is more consistent with the usual mathematical notation I can't tell if you're saying that as if it's a good thing, or a bad thing.
- aleph_minus_one 11mo ago
  It's not about good nor bad, but about the different trade-offs that these two CASs made. What is more important for you is something that you can only answer for yourself.

pmkary 11mo ago

I actually loved this idea so much that every language I make, I try to do the same. The point of it is that typing ( requires shift, while [ does not. And you have no idea when you have tunnel syndrome, how much it hurts each time you write a (. While it’s ugly, the hand thanks you for it.

SSLy 11mo ago
> The point of it is that typing ( requires shift, while [ does not. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xkeyboard-config/xkeyboard-config/-/blob/8aa73d2c9a5a7391538c932e265f89c416b53138/rules/base.extras.xml#L1925 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xkeyboard-config/xkeyboard-co... Now, I really could've used something like this on macOS… Karabiner to the rescue https://genesy.github.io/karabiner-complex-rules-generator/#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 https://genesy.github.io/karabiner-complex-rules-generator/#...
- esafak 11mo ago
  As everybody knows ...
  - SSLy 11mo ago
    I use(d) arch btw
zwaps 11mo ago
Ironically, on ISO keyboards, [] need an ALT so even more pain

superposeur 11mo ago

The Maple syntax may superficially seem easier but actually leads to more problems in practice. The point of the [ ] is that argument of a function is logically distinct from algebraically grouping terms in an equation. Also, Mathematica is a camel case language since underscore is for pattern recognition, hence the capitalization of function names. Personally, I’ve found every little Mathematica design feature to be incredibly well thought out, logical, and consistently implemented over the whole of the language.