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> If someone wants to install an advert app on their fridge (I assume in exchange for money) then fair enough. No, it should be illegal even when done willingl

> If someone wants to install an advert app on their fridge (I assume in exchange for money) then fair enough. No, it should be illegal even when done willingly. Because this worsens the bargaining position of everyone else.

Freak_NL 11mo ago
That might sound strange at first, but we've seen enough now to know that this will inevitably mean that a lot of manufacturers will follow this model. I can imagine deals where you get a huge 'rebate' if you permanently enable the ad-feature (the on-screen wizard will blow one of those tiny fuses as its final step, locking the device to that setting). That effectively mandates that the price for the device is its selling price minus the huge rebate, and the whole market will adjust to that. Just ban advertising on those devices.
- sakompella 11mo ago
  "Telly" [1] is a real 55" TV that is available for free. It is designed to always, constantly be running advertisements. > To reserve a Telly, you must agree to use the device as the main TV in your home, constantly keep it connected to the internet, and regularly watch it. If the company finds that you violate these rules, Telly will ask you to return the TV (and charge a $1,000 fee if you don’t send it back). 1: https://www.theverge.com/televisions/777588/telly-tv-hands-on-ads https://www.theverge.com/televisions/777588/telly-tv-hands-o...
  - venturecruelty 11mo ago
    This reads like a really bad Black Mirror episode. Holy hell.
nish__ 11mo ago
Also because just because something is done "willingly" doesn't mean they fully understand that it may not be in their best interest, long-term. This is why drugs are illegal.
monooso 11mo ago
In what way? The device that immediately springs to mind is the Kindle. You can choose to buy a version without ads, or save ~10% and accept ads. That seems like a reasonable compromise.

Freak_NL 11mo ago

That might sound strange at first, but we've seen enough now to know that this will inevitably mean that a lot of manufacturers will follow this model. I can imagine deals where you get a huge 'rebate' if you permanently enable the ad-feature (the on-screen wizard will blow one of those tiny fuses as its final step, locking the device to that setting). That effectively mandates that the price for the device is its selling price minus the huge rebate, and the whole market will adjust to that. Just ban advertising on those devices.

sakompella 11mo ago
"Telly" [1] is a real 55" TV that is available for free. It is designed to always, constantly be running advertisements. > To reserve a Telly, you must agree to use the device as the main TV in your home, constantly keep it connected to the internet, and regularly watch it. If the company finds that you violate these rules, Telly will ask you to return the TV (and charge a $1,000 fee if you don’t send it back). 1: https://www.theverge.com/televisions/777588/telly-tv-hands-on-ads https://www.theverge.com/televisions/777588/telly-tv-hands-o...
- venturecruelty 11mo ago
  This reads like a really bad Black Mirror episode. Holy hell.

nish__ 11mo ago

Also because just because something is done "willingly" doesn't mean they fully understand that it may not be in their best interest, long-term. This is why drugs are illegal.

monooso 11mo ago

In what way? The device that immediately springs to mind is the Kindle. You can choose to buy a version without ads, or save ~10% and accept ads. That seems like a reasonable compromise.