Well yeah, but this empathy and frustration is simply misplaced. I have empathy for people who didn't get good education, and they should be frustrated towards

Well yeah, but this empathy and frustration is simply misplaced. I have empathy for people who didn't get good education, and they should be frustrated towards their bad schooling. Math notation is simply the wrong target. If they can't see that, it's hard to think they have much chance with the actual math. "A mathematician is a person who knows how to separate the relevant from the irrelevant", a saying I was told in school.