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> A society with a pragmatic regard for its own survival would ban it outright Western society would cease to exist if it didn't continue its diabolical lies,
by alexashka 10mo ago
> A society with a pragmatic regard for its own survival would ban it outright
Western society would cease to exist if it didn't continue its diabolical lies, falsehoods and abuse. The lies are not optional.
It is because of pragmatic regard for survival of the status quo that the lies do continue. That word 'pragmatic' is what keeps diabolical people from seeing themselves for what they are.
- lukan 10mo agoYou say that like western culture is the worst here? Where is it better? Russia? Where stating that a war is a war can get you in prison? China, where historical events, like 1989 at tianamen square are wiped out? North Korea where everyone cheers up to the beloved genius leader?
- scubbo 10mo agohttps://knowyourmeme.com/memes/no-bitch-dats-a-whole-new-x-wtf-is-you-talkin-about https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/no-bitch-dats-a-whole-new-x-w...
- venturecruelty 10mo agoCan we not critique something without whataboutism? We're not talking about China or Russia, where presumably scant few HN contributors live.
- lukan 10mo agoThe topic is advertising. As of my knowledge, happens all around the world. So .. why single out "the west" here like this in the first place?
- venturecruelty 10mo agoBecause western society, especially the American flavor, sees every ad as sacrosanct and necessary for the planet to keep on spinning, while the mere suggestion that maybe we don't need billboards is met with disproportionate vitriol. I mean, someone elsewhere suggested that it would upend the economy if people couldn't shove their marketing copy in your face 24/7. Oh, imagine the horror! Hacker News also has a, largely, American audience, so we ought not to pretend that we're not mostly talking about America and the west when we have these discussions. "But what about China?" I don't care, I don't live in China, most people here don't live in China. I have a laundry list of criticism of China, but something tells me we're not talking about China.
- lukan 10mo agoAdvertisement works pretty much the same, whether in the west, as well as the east ( whatever those terms mean anyway). So I would rather like to talk about advertisement in general, how we as humanity can maybe move past it. How to fund online services in a different way, instead of advertisement. Venting about how all is shit, I see as not so productive in making any progress here.
- hackable_sand 10mo agoBecause we strive to be good and justified and beneficial to all peoples. There are so many opportunities in the next few decades to set good examples for the world over.
- alexashka 10mo agoI imagine slave owners who didn't abuse their slaves felt quite righteous and even superior to other slave owners. Where is it better? Who treats slaves better than I do, they'd say.
- lukan 10mo agoDepends on the time, but since europe got rid of slavery way earlier than US, the question would have been easy to answer.
- cess11 10mo agoStating that a particular ongoing genocide is a genocide can get you in quite a bit of trouble under "western culture". I'm not so sure China or DPRK are as different as you make them out to be, and if you've got a point, I'm not so sure it will last more than a few years.