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The people who planned this are evil. People who voted this are evil.

by freitasm 10mo ago

RickJWagner 10mo ago
No, not hardly. The evil ones are the people that put out the welcome mat for great caravans of immigrants, then looked the other way or even threw them out of their community when they arrived in their backyard. Such people were great humanitarians when the immigrants were staying close to the border. That changed quickly when the first bus arrived at Martha’s Vineyard. The truly evil ones are the NIMBY crowd, when they were the welcoming crowd for somebody else’s back yard.
- foogazi 10mo ago
  > The evil ones are the people that Do these people even exist? Because we know who design, built and allowed this to happen But your statement not only shifts the blame to some disconnected group, it absolves the only people with direct action from the guilt associated with it
  - RickJWagner 10mo ago
    Of course they exist. The immigrants that were sent to Martha’s Vineyard were immediately escorted elsewhere, under care of the National Guard. ( Money can do those sort of things. ) The desire to house immigrants often seems to apply to locales removed from the ‘good people’ espousing the immigration. The truly evil ones are the hypocrites that want to seem virtuous, but don’t want to do any of the messy part themselves. The people who realistically say they don’t want to make the necessary sacrifices are only being honest, not evil. It seems very few people really want a great bunch of immigrants in their own back yard. https://www.npr.org/2022/09/16/1123521033/marthas-vineyard-migrants-sent-to-cape-cod https://www.npr.org/2022/09/16/1123521033/marthas-vineyard-m...
    - pupppet 10mo ago
      This is a juvenile take. You can’t ship a group of people to a random location in the US and say OK you live here now.
      - RickJWagner 10mo ago
        Sure you can. Just as easy as you can live in a wealthy enclave, far from the messy logistics of processing immigrants while virtue signaling that the unfortunate hosts are bad people for saying ‘slow down’. The level of entitlement is appalling. Just exactly where do you propose the immigrants should live? Designated places far from the nice, wealthy enclaves?
        foogazi 10mo ago
        > where do you propose the immigrants should live? Wherever they can afford to like everyone else. Immigrants are just like us. In fact I was also an immigrant - nobody bussed us anywhere. Just find a place to rent and that’s it.
        RickJWagner 10mo ago
        I agree that random locations are appropriate. When the immigrants become self-sufficient, locations of their choosing are ideal. When the immigrants are not yet self-sufficient, it seems best to avoid large populations in concentrated areas. ( This brings overwhelmed schools, healthcare systems, and other shared infrastructure, to the disadvantage of both the immigrants and the citizen population.)
        pupppet 10mo ago
        >Just exactly where do you propose the immigrants should live? Designated places far from the nice, wealthy enclaves? They live where they can afford, just like everyone else. Flying/busing people to some random neighborhood is nothing more than a political stunt at the expense of the lives these politicians are toying with.
    - 10mo ago

The people who planned this are evil. People who voted this are evil.

No, not hardly. The evil ones are the people that put out the welcome mat for great caravans of immigrants, then looked the other way or even threw them out of their community when they arrived in their backyard. Such people were great humanitarians when the immigrants were staying close to the border. That changed quickly when the first bus arrived at Martha’s Vineyard. The truly evil ones are the NIMBY crowd, when they were the welcoming crowd for somebody else’s back yard.

foogazi 10mo ago
> The evil ones are the people that Do these people even exist? Because we know who design, built and allowed this to happen But your statement not only shifts the blame to some disconnected group, it absolves the only people with direct action from the guilt associated with it
- RickJWagner 10mo ago
  Of course they exist. The immigrants that were sent to Martha’s Vineyard were immediately escorted elsewhere, under care of the National Guard. ( Money can do those sort of things. ) The desire to house immigrants often seems to apply to locales removed from the ‘good people’ espousing the immigration. The truly evil ones are the hypocrites that want to seem virtuous, but don’t want to do any of the messy part themselves. The people who realistically say they don’t want to make the necessary sacrifices are only being honest, not evil. It seems very few people really want a great bunch of immigrants in their own back yard. https://www.npr.org/2022/09/16/1123521033/marthas-vineyard-migrants-sent-to-cape-cod https://www.npr.org/2022/09/16/1123521033/marthas-vineyard-m...
  - pupppet 10mo ago
    This is a juvenile take. You can’t ship a group of people to a random location in the US and say OK you live here now.
    - RickJWagner 10mo ago
      Sure you can. Just as easy as you can live in a wealthy enclave, far from the messy logistics of processing immigrants while virtue signaling that the unfortunate hosts are bad people for saying ‘slow down’. The level of entitlement is appalling. Just exactly where do you propose the immigrants should live? Designated places far from the nice, wealthy enclaves?
      - foogazi 10mo ago
        > where do you propose the immigrants should live? Wherever they can afford to like everyone else. Immigrants are just like us. In fact I was also an immigrant - nobody bussed us anywhere. Just find a place to rent and that’s it.
        RickJWagner 10mo ago
        I agree that random locations are appropriate. When the immigrants become self-sufficient, locations of their choosing are ideal. When the immigrants are not yet self-sufficient, it seems best to avoid large populations in concentrated areas. ( This brings overwhelmed schools, healthcare systems, and other shared infrastructure, to the disadvantage of both the immigrants and the citizen population.)
      - pupppet 10mo ago
        >Just exactly where do you propose the immigrants should live? Designated places far from the nice, wealthy enclaves? They live where they can afford, just like everyone else. Flying/busing people to some random neighborhood is nothing more than a political stunt at the expense of the lives these politicians are toying with.
  - 10mo ago