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> A successor to the iconic original Jolla Phone from 2013 does anyone own this 2013 version? why did it not crash the market? Also, will my banking app be su

by ramon156 11mo ago

> A successor to the iconic original Jolla Phone from 2013 does anyone own this 2013 version? why did it not crash the market? Also, will my banking app be supported on sailfishOS?

m4rtink 11mo ago
I have it - Wayland, BTRFS, RPM and systemd on a phone - in 2013! Why did it not set the wolrd on fire back then ? Ruthless monopoly building on both Google and Apple side IMHO. It's a great success Jolla still exists and does its thing. :-)
- nebula8804 11mo ago
  >Ruthless monopoly building on both Google and Apple side IMHO. Microsoft spent a lot of money and resources trying to compete and failed. Android/Apple just started early enough and by 2012 it was too late as most consumers have decided. To enter this market you have to be truly unique or else you are just copying the competitor and why would users switch if they are happy enough? Is that really a monopoly if you had a third competitor come in and try?
  - m4rtink 11mo ago
    Consumers decided - and Google also decided to ban manufacturers from building phones with another OS or they loose access to Google Play store and Google apps on the lucrative Android phones they also manufacture: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on... (the article is from 2013 but was updated in 2018) So no manufacturer that already builds Android phones will make an alternative OS phone for you - and that's effectively all of the mobile phone manufacturers given Apple makes all of the iOS devices.
    - nebula8804 11mo ago
      Why haven't all the manufacturers filed a counter suit or otherwise work to pressure Google and cause them grief? They are all suffering so they should all work to reduce that suffering no? Only thing I can think of is that some manufacturers are doing just fine in this arrangement so there is no motivation to upend the apple cart.
mariusor 11mo ago
I have both the original and the C model they released in 2017.
fph 11mo ago
Same reason why Linux is not crashing the desktop market? (I have a Jolla 1 and a Jolla C sitting in a drawer, now I fully switched to Graphene OS.)
- m4rtink 11mo ago
  With all the latest Windows fuckups its picking up recently in the form of SteamOS and Bazzite.
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> A successor to the iconic original Jolla Phone from 2013 does anyone own this 2013 version? why did it not crash the market? Also, will my banking app be supported on sailfishOS?

m4rtink 11mo ago

I have it - Wayland, BTRFS, RPM and systemd on a phone - in 2013! Why did it not set the wolrd on fire back then ? Ruthless monopoly building on both Google and Apple side IMHO. It's a great success Jolla still exists and does its thing. :-)

nebula8804 11mo ago
>Ruthless monopoly building on both Google and Apple side IMHO. Microsoft spent a lot of money and resources trying to compete and failed. Android/Apple just started early enough and by 2012 it was too late as most consumers have decided. To enter this market you have to be truly unique or else you are just copying the competitor and why would users switch if they are happy enough? Is that really a monopoly if you had a third competitor come in and try?
- m4rtink 11mo ago
  Consumers decided - and Google also decided to ban manufacturers from building phones with another OS or they loose access to Google Play store and Google apps on the lucrative Android phones they also manufacture: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on... (the article is from 2013 but was updated in 2018) So no manufacturer that already builds Android phones will make an alternative OS phone for you - and that's effectively all of the mobile phone manufacturers given Apple makes all of the iOS devices.
  - nebula8804 11mo ago
    Why haven't all the manufacturers filed a counter suit or otherwise work to pressure Google and cause them grief? They are all suffering so they should all work to reduce that suffering no? Only thing I can think of is that some manufacturers are doing just fine in this arrangement so there is no motivation to upend the apple cart.

mariusor 11mo ago

I have both the original and the C model they released in 2017.

fph 11mo ago

Same reason why Linux is not crashing the desktop market? (I have a Jolla 1 and a Jolla C sitting in a drawer, now I fully switched to Graphene OS.)

m4rtink 11mo ago
With all the latest Windows fuckups its picking up recently in the form of SteamOS and Bazzite.

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