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Cloudflare is now below 99.9% uptime, for anyone keeping track. I reckon my home PC is at least 99.9%.
by lionkor 11mo ago
Cloudflare is now below 99.9% uptime, for anyone keeping track. I reckon my home PC is at least 99.9%.
- markus_zhang 11mo agoTBF, it depends on the number of outages locally. In my area it is one outage every thunderstorm/snow storm, so unfortunately the up time of my laptop, even with the help of a large, portable battery charging station (which can charge multiple laptops at the same time), is not optimistic. I sometimes fancy that I could just take cash, go into the wood, build a small solar array, collect & cleanse river water, and buy a starlink console.
- roguecoder 11mo agoCostco had a deal on solid-state UPS & solar panels a while back that I was happy to partake of
- DANmode 11mo agoFar more achievable pricing and logistics than even ten years ago.
- SoftTalker 11mo agoYeah, I'd guess I average a power drop once a month or so at home. Never calculated the nines of uptime average, but it's not that infrequent. I know when I need to reset the clock on my microwave oven.
- lionkor 11mo ago99.9 is like 9 hours of downtime a year.
- ryandvm 11mo agoIndeed. AWS too. I feel like the cloud hosting companies have lost the plot. "They can provide better uptime than us" is the entire rationale that a lot of small companies have when choosing to run everything in the cloud. If they cost more AND they're less reliable, what exactly is the reason to not self host?
- XCSme 11mo agoPlus, when you self-host, you can likely fix the issue yourself in a couple of hours max, instead of waiting indefinitely for a fix or support that might never come.
- bombcar 11mo agoThese global cloud outages aren’t the real issue; they affect everyone and get fixed. What is killer is when there is a KNOWN issue that affects YOU but basically only you so why bother fixing it!
- XCSme 11mo agoI mean, I still prefer to have the ability to fix it myself, because I know I can probably do it in 1h max. I know this doesn't apply to most people, especially those outside of HN though.
- al_borland 11mo agoEven if resolution times are equal, there is some comfort in being able to see the problem and make progress on it to feel like you're actively doing something. I work in a large enterprise and we have a team dedicated to managing critical incidents and getting everyone together for a resolution. When a 3rd party vendor is the reason for the outage, those calls are really awkward. It's a bunch of people sitting around pressing F5, all frantically trying to make it look like they are actively helping, when no one is actually doing anything, because they can't. I equate it to driving. I'd rather be moving at a normal speed on side streets than sitting in traffic on the expressway, even if the expressway is technically faster.
- XCSme 11mo agoToday a client is having some issue with Zoom because of some artificial rate limits they impose. Their support is not responding, the account can't be used, courses can not be held and there's not much we can do. We already started looking into moving away from Zoom, I suggested self-hosting http://jitsi.org http://jitsi.org Based on their docs, self-hosting is well supported, and probably a $50-$100 server is more than enough, so a lot cheaper than Zoom.
- tripplyons 11mo agoDo they include uptime guarantees in any contracts?
- hashstring 11mo agoSee 1.1 and 1.2; you get some credit back for when they fail to deliver. https://www.cloudflare.com/business-sla/ https://www.cloudflare.com/business-sla/
- odie5533 11mo agoWhen a piece of hardware goes or a careless backup process fails, downtime of a self-hosted service can be measured in days or weeks.
- pclmulqdq 11mo agoHave 2 of them and your users only see correlated failures.
- chickensong 11mo agoThat's a pretty silly comparison though.
- lionkor 11mo agoYes, but it should also never happen that CF drops below 99.99, that's extremely doable for them (and it is literally the point of using a CDN).
- hashstring 11mo agoWhere/how are you keeping track of this? What is their current uptime percentage?
- ivanjermakov 11mo ago1 - downtime/period. I suspect period is 1 year. 99.9% is 8.76 hours of downtime a year.
- lionkor 11mo agoExactly this. Just keep a note every time they have a big outage, and then take the last year and see if its over 9 hours, is a good measure.