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What a load of bollocks. If your job is to write methods to reverse strings then you are unqualified, otherwise I wouldn't give a shit whether a candidate can r
by EnderMB 14y ago
What a load of bollocks. If your job is to write methods to reverse strings then you are unqualified, otherwise I wouldn't give a shit whether a candidate can reverse a string. Why would I want to know if someone can reverse a string if the job is to maintain a web app?
A few questions for you. How old are you? Have you hired developers before? Truthfully, have you ever had to reverse a string under pressure at your current job.
- borplk 14y agoAre you kidding? reversing a string in your language of choice is far too trivial. If you can't do it you really aren't ready to be working in the industry.
- cygwin98 14y agoOut of curiosity, when the interviewer asks you to reverse a string in your language, say Ruby, are you supposed to use existing algorithms/methods built-in in that language, or to flip each character using a for-loop? In Ruby, it's really a single method called reverse will do the trick, i.e., "hello".reverse gives "olleh". I'm trying to make sense of the reason why such a question is asked.
- candybar 14y agoNo, the expectation is that you'll use a loop or recursion. If you use an existing method/function, the interviewer will kindly ask you to implement that yourself. The general reason why such a question is asked is because interviewers don't have an infinite amount of time and there's no point in considering any candidate who can't do this. It's a way to weed out ridiculously bad candidates so that you can focus more on good candidates.
- EnderMB 14y agoIt's not about whether they can do it or not. It's about why knowing a skill that will take even a non-developer ten seconds to Google makes someone incapable of functioning as a developer. More often than not the people that spout that kind of nonsense are twenty-something junior developers that read a bit of HN and have decided that they know better than everyone else about what makes a good programmer. Why would you test if someone can reverse a string if you're hiring someone to maintain and build on some shitty web app?
- candybar 14y agoIt takes someone who doesn't speak English ten seconds to look up the past tense of the verb "bring" - this doesn't mean you'd want to hire as a journalist someone who seems to think the answer is "bringed" Doing a string reverse is so trivial that it's not about needing that skill, but rather what not being able to do that speaks about the candidate's general aptitude and skill level.
- EnderMB 14y ago"Why would you test if someone can reverse a string if you're hiring someone to maintain and build on some shitty web app?" If that question can't be answered then your opinion on someones skill level is irrelevant. Also, if you've got time, answer the questions in my first post: "How old are you? Have you hired developers before? Truthfully, have you ever had to reverse a string under pressure at your current job."
- candybar 14y agoBecause anyone who can't do this almost certainly doesn't have the ability to program any software system well, some shitty web app or otherwise. You're not trying to fill out a remedial CS course in community college, you're trying to get someone to program real things real people use. The only way this question wouldn't be useful is if you had a good filter such that almost everyone who gets to that point would answer that question correctly. But apparently, this is not the case. There are people who fail such tests (despite apparently good paper qualifications and ability to talk BS). It's fairly important that you not let through such imposters. And yes I've hired people and all of them have had to answer much more complex algorithmic questions to get the job and all of them turned out to be competent. And "have you ever had to" questions are ingenuous - interview settings are never going to be replicated exactly in a work setting, unless your job is to go around to be interviewed for different jobs. Good interview questions don't simulate work setting - they extract most critical work-relevant information about the candidate without wasting time.
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- candybar 14y agoWhat questions do you ask your candidates? How many candidates do you go through before making a single offer?