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immigration is a scapegoat. it's not the problem. reducing immigration would not improve anything.
by em-bee 11mo ago
immigration is a scapegoat. it's not the problem. reducing immigration would not improve anything.
- inglor_cz 11mo agoPeople are tribal, and the clash of values between Islam and postmodern secular Europeans is very real.
- em-bee 11mo agoagain, that clash is not the cause for the problems we are facing.
- inglor_cz 11mo agoCartoonists at Charlie Hebdo weren't killed by capitalism or global climate change. Personally, I consider the chilling effect of such events on freedom of speech and art quite a huge problem. This freedom was crucial to European prosperity.
- phatskat 11mo agoBut that attack wasn’t representative of any large population, it was the result of terrorists doing terrorist things.
- machomaster 11mo agoPeople/institutions didn't want to fix real problems. This unwillingbess/inability causes problems to spiral and more and more problems to appear. Including the clash.
- mikkupikku 11mo ago> immigration is a scapegoat. it's not the problem When you tell people their problem isn't real, you'll more likely drive them to somebody else than gaslight them into siding with you.
- em-bee 11mo agoi am not telling people that their problem isn't real. i am telling them that their understanding for the cause of their problems isn't what they think it is, or what they are being told it is. the people who are having problems finding work, facing crime, etc, do not actually have a problem with immigration. they are only getting told by deceptive politicians that dealing with immigration would solve their problems. they are the ones being lied to. that's the nature of a scapegoat.
- mikkupikku 11mo agoTomato, potato. If you refuse to address the issues people have, or even just wrongly feel they have, and the only party that even pretends to care is your spooky boogieman right wing party, and you're so sincerely worried about the implications of that, then pull your head out of your ass and meet people where they are.
- em-bee 11mo agowell then, what are the problems you are facing? and also tell me how reducing immigration will solve those problems.
- mikkupikku 11mo agoMe personally? Right now I'm most bothered by a large splinter in my finger. I'm pretty comfortable and my grander concerns relate not to immigration but rather how America will handle the demise of their global hegemony, if America will go to war with China over Taiwan.. That's what worries me the most. But concerning immigration, you seem to think that people have other (perhaps even real) problems which they are falsely attributing to immigration. Like "Oh I can't afford a big house because of those damn immigrants" when really the problem is a lack of affordable housing, or some other real issue which you happen to agree is a problem. And to be sure, there is some of that kind of thinking going on. But for the most part, I think people who are upset about immigration really are upset about the immigration itself, particularly from substantially different cultures. There is a prominent belief among anti-immigration people that their governments are trying to ethnically replace them. They want to continue living in the society they grew up in, not in New New Dehli. I suppose you might think they're wrong to want this, we're all one race, the human race, etc. Whatever, all that ideological rhetoric doesn't change the way people vote when they begin to feel like foreigners in their own country.