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Is that $10k the list price, or have you actually seen a recent invoice from a mechanic for a Model 3 battery swap?

whatever1 11mo ago
It’s an urban legend.
oskarkk 11mo ago
I've searched the internet and I found some articles and people talking about prices around $11-16k, most of the times including labor. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/new-battery-cost-for-a-model-3.322358/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/new-battery-cost-for... https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/183if34/what_is_the_actual_cost_of_replacing_a_2018_model/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/183if34/what_i... https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/1blczt1/what_are_battery_replacement_costs_for_m3_rwd_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/1blczt1/what_a... https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/tesla-battery-replacement-costs https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/tesla-battery-replace... https://www.findmyelectric.com/blog/tesla-model-3-battery-replacement-cost/ https://www.findmyelectric.com/blog/tesla-model-3-battery-re...
cyberax 11mo ago
I was quoted $15k in a Tesla service center for a Model 3 battery replacement, with parts and labor.
- lifty 11mo ago
  Wait another year. CATL is destroying the battery market with their new LFP and sodium batteries. Prices are collapsing.
  - dzhiurgis 11mo ago
    Sodium will take 15 years to catch up to LFP prices. Stop consuming hype.
  - hnarn 11mo ago
    Doesn't sound like a market being "destroyed" to me, it sounds like a market being a market.
    - lifty 11mo ago
      Maybe that would have been a better way to phrase it. I meant it in a positive way.
  - fnord77 11mo ago
    wasn't CATL blacklisted by the US govt?
    - peppersghost93 11mo ago
      Anything good for the EV market will be blacklisted by the US govt
labcomputer 11mo ago
I have no info on Tesla batteries. But, just as a point of reference, you can now buy knock-down 48V battery "kits" from China for under $90/kWh. They include everything you need: case, cells, BMS, circuit breaker/isolator, and fire suppression. Assembly takes about an hour. (The raw prismatic cells without the rest go for ~$50/kWh). Shipping from China to the west coast runs an additional $30/kWh due to the weight of the cells and volume of the box (shipped in several boxes to reduce cost). So you can have a 300 lbs, 15 kWh 48V battery shipped to your door for about $120/kWh). High voltage EV batteries need additional components (like HV contractors) due to stacking so many cells in series, but it seems entirely plausible that Tesla's economies of scale allow them to offer a 75 kWh battery for $10k (~$133/kWh) plus installation.
- dzhiurgis 11mo ago
  Automotive grade cells are a bit more expensive (generally higher C rates, dunno if they have other specs)

It’s an urban legend.

I've searched the internet and I found some articles and people talking about prices around $11-16k, most of the times including labor. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/new-battery-cost-for-a-model-3.322358/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/new-battery-cost-for... https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/183if34/what_is_the_actual_cost_of_replacing_a_2018_model/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/183if34/what_i... https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/1blczt1/what_are_battery_replacement_costs_for_m3_rwd_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/1blczt1/what_a... https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/tesla-battery-replacement-costs https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/tesla-battery-replace... https://www.findmyelectric.com/blog/tesla-model-3-battery-replacement-cost/ https://www.findmyelectric.com/blog/tesla-model-3-battery-re...

cyberax 11mo ago

I was quoted $15k in a Tesla service center for a Model 3 battery replacement, with parts and labor.

lifty 11mo ago
Wait another year. CATL is destroying the battery market with their new LFP and sodium batteries. Prices are collapsing.
- dzhiurgis 11mo ago
  Sodium will take 15 years to catch up to LFP prices. Stop consuming hype.
- hnarn 11mo ago
  Doesn't sound like a market being "destroyed" to me, it sounds like a market being a market.
  - lifty 11mo ago
    Maybe that would have been a better way to phrase it. I meant it in a positive way.
- fnord77 11mo ago
  wasn't CATL blacklisted by the US govt?
  - peppersghost93 11mo ago
    Anything good for the EV market will be blacklisted by the US govt

labcomputer 11mo ago

I have no info on Tesla batteries. But, just as a point of reference, you can now buy knock-down 48V battery "kits" from China for under $90/kWh. They include everything you need: case, cells, BMS, circuit breaker/isolator, and fire suppression. Assembly takes about an hour. (The raw prismatic cells without the rest go for ~$50/kWh). Shipping from China to the west coast runs an additional $30/kWh due to the weight of the cells and volume of the box (shipped in several boxes to reduce cost). So you can have a 300 lbs, 15 kWh 48V battery shipped to your door for about $120/kWh). High voltage EV batteries need additional components (like HV contractors) due to stacking so many cells in series, but it seems entirely plausible that Tesla's economies of scale allow them to offer a 75 kWh battery for $10k (~$133/kWh) plus installation.

dzhiurgis 11mo ago
Automotive grade cells are a bit more expensive (generally higher C rates, dunno if they have other specs)