Ack. Forgot to respond to this. Yes, valid point. I guess when you swim in the sea of modal interfaces you're used to you don't see them. It's entirely poss

Ack. Forgot to respond to this. Yes, valid point. I guess when you swim in the sea of modal interfaces you're used to you don't see them. It's entirely possible the reason I like emacs more than vi is I just used emacs a lot more. Also, I like that emacs starts in a mode where it prints out what you type in. I know some versions of vim did this too, but now it seems sort of random so I always hit escape i any time i start vi. Also, I do appreciate vi's keystrokes. They seem to be better thought out than emacs'. I'm sure you can modify bindings in vim by now. Not sure what you mean by C-c C-c in emacs. That's not bound to anything on my system. Are you talking about (overwrite-mode)? Not sure I understand why vi navigation is better. I always thought emacs' arrow keys were better than escape-h,j,k or l. Much of the time I just use emacs' equivalent of leaping, ctrl-s and ctrl-r to search forward and back.