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Anyone want to start a fab with me? We can buy an ASML machine and figure out the rest as we go. Toronto area btw
by nish__ 11mo ago
Anyone want to start a fab with me? We can buy an ASML machine and figure out the rest as we go. Toronto area btw
- jacquesm 11mo agoI hope you have very deep pockets. But I'm cheering you on from the sidelines.
- nish__ 11mo agoJust need a half billion in upfront investment. And thank you for the support :)
- dylan604 11mo agoSo, playing the Mega Powerball are you?
- nish__ 11mo agoI made a website: https://ontario-chips.vercel.app/ https://ontario-chips.vercel.app/
- dylan604 11mo agowonder which one will find a winner faster...
- nish__ 11mo agoIt's a toss up.
- jvdvegt 11mo agoI suppose it would help if I could read the whole page: I cannot see the left few characters on Firefox on Android. What did you make this with? Note that fixing the site won't increase my chances of donating, I'm from the ASML country ;)
- collinmanderson 11mo agoI'll happily invest $100 into this project in exchange for stock. let me know.
- jacquesm 11mo agoKickstarter time? That would set some records.
- jeroenhd 11mo agoI can't invest, your company doesn't have "AI" in the name and your business plan doesn't seem to involve shoving unwanted chatbots down everyone's throats at all. That's no way to run a modern business!
- tmaly 11mo agothat is an understatement
- bhhaskin 11mo agoOnly if you put up the 10 billion dollars.
- nish__ 11mo agoMachines are less than 400 million.
- pixl97 11mo agoAnd the cost of the people to run those machines, and the factories that are required to run the machines?
- waynesonfire 11mo agoDont forget RAM.
- nish__ 11mo agoI'll do it for free. And I'm sure we could rent a facility.
- bhhaskin 11mo agoI think you are vastly underestimating how a modern fab works. The average cost is 10 billion and takes a about 10 years to build. They are very complex and even the slightest issue can ruin yields. There is a reason why there are so few.
- nish__ 11mo agoYeah you're right. I was way off.
- acksponies 10mo agoWhy is your bitcoin donation still active then?
- GeekFortyTwo 11mo agoAs someone with no skills in the space, no money, and lives near Ottawa: I'd love to help start a fab in Ontario.
- deuplonicus 11mo agoSure, we can work on brining in TinyTapeout to modern fab
- Reason077 11mo agoA dozen or so well-resourced tech titans in China are no doubt asking themselves this same question right now. Of course, it takes quite some time for a fab to go from an idea to mass production. Even in China. Expect prices to drop 2-3 years from now when all the new capacity comes online?
- dylan604 11mo agoAt that point, it'll be the opposite problem as more capacity than demand will be available. These new fabs won't be able to pay for themselves. Every tic receives a tok.
- School-Cotton 11mo agoChina cannot buy ASML machines. All advanced semiconductor manufacturing in China is done with stockpiled ASML machines from before the ban.
- phil21 11mo agoWould you really need ASML machines to do DDR5 RAM? Honest question, but I figured there was competition for the non-bleeding edge - perhaps naively so.
- squigz 11mo agoAs someone who knows next to nothing about this space, why can China not build their own machines? Is ASML the only company making those machines? If so, why? Is it a matter of patents, or is the knowledge required for this so specialized only they've built it up?
- asjir 11mo agoBut what if it's a bubble driven by speculation? It wouldn't pay off. Starting a futures exchange on RAM chips, on the other hand...
- panzagl 11mo agoHear me out- artisanal DRAM.
- nish__ 11mo agoI'm listening.
- q3k 11mo agoBathtub semiconductors! Shameless plug: https://wiki.fa-fo.de/orga:donate https://wiki.fa-fo.de/orga:donate
- layer8 11mo agoEvery transistor carefully hand-wired with love, giving each bit its own individual characteristic, for more organic, natural data.
- bigiain 11mo agoYou've cracked the funding problem! You need to sell the artisanal DRAM to HiFi hucksters. Get Monster Cable on board to say their cables can only reach peak warmth, punch, and clarity - when using gear with artisanal DRAM. You'll easily sell into that market at $10k per GB...
- immibis 11mo agoThis existed and it was called LOL memory (little old lady memory). It was knitted by little old ladies, being careful of which wires passed through which cores of course. It was ROM, not RAM.
- Kye 11mo agoSome early memory was woven: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory We could bring it back.
- bigiain 11mo agoLocally sourced artisanal DRAM
- heisenbit 11mo agoBuying may be possible but when will you get it?
- acksponies 10mo agoSince you admitted this is not feasible, you need to deactivate your bc donation link or else that's very sketchy.