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Another VM platform I've heard good things about (but not used personally) is XCP-ng: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XCP-ng https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XCP-

Another VM platform I've heard good things about (but not used personally) is XCP-ng: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XCP-ng https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XCP-ng (There's also OpenStack.)

MurkyLabs 11mo ago
I've heard good things about XCP-ng as well and tried it out at home and proxmox seems much easier to use out of the box. Not saying XCP-ng is bad just that it wasn't as intuitive to me as proxmox was when we were moving away from vmware
NexRebular 11mo ago
And there's also Triton[0] and vanilla SmartOS[1] it's based on [0] https://github.com/TritonDataCenter/triton https://github.com/TritonDataCenter/triton [1] https://docs.smartos.org/ https://docs.smartos.org/
CuriousRose 11mo ago
Ex XCP-ng user here. The web management portal requires Xen Orchestra and needs to be installed as a seperate VM which can be irritating, with a seperate paid license. Proxmox has a web GUI natively on install which is super convenient and pretty much free for 90% of use cases.
- throw0101d 11mo ago
  > The web management portal requires Xen Orchestra and needs to be installed as a seperate VM which can be irritating, with a seperate paid license. Xen Orchestra appears to be open source: * https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra * https://docs.xen-orchestra.com/installation#from-the-sources https://docs.xen-orchestra.com/installation#from-the-sources See also perhaps: * https://github.com/ronivay/XenOrchestraInstallerUpdater https://github.com/ronivay/XenOrchestraInstallerUpdater * https://hub.docker.com/r/ronivay/xen-orchestra https://hub.docker.com/r/ronivay/xen-orchestra * Via: https://forums.lawrencesystems.com/t/how-to-build-xen-orchestra-from-sources-2024/19913 https://forums.lawrencesystems.com/t/how-to-build-xen-orches...
  - iso1631 11mo ago
    Yup, I have two xen orchestras running on different vm clusters in different DCs managing about 8 pools (some on all the time, some in vehicles which are sometimes on, sometimes off), all open source, works well enough. I don't change the pools enough to make it worth automating the management.
JamesSwift 11mo ago
This channel (https://www.youtube.com/@LAWRENCESYSTEMS https://www.youtube.com/@LAWRENCESYSTEMS) has a lot of xcp-ng content, and also has several proxmox vs xcp-ng discussions over the years (eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et54DxAC2uM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et54DxAC2uM)

Another VM platform I've heard good things about (but not used personally) is XCP-ng: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XCP-ng https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XCP-ng (There's also OpenStack.)

MurkyLabs 11mo ago

I've heard good things about XCP-ng as well and tried it out at home and proxmox seems much easier to use out of the box. Not saying XCP-ng is bad just that it wasn't as intuitive to me as proxmox was when we were moving away from vmware

NexRebular 11mo ago

And there's also Triton[0] and vanilla SmartOS[1] it's based on [0] https://github.com/TritonDataCenter/triton https://github.com/TritonDataCenter/triton [1] https://docs.smartos.org/ https://docs.smartos.org/

CuriousRose 11mo ago

Ex XCP-ng user here. The web management portal requires Xen Orchestra and needs to be installed as a seperate VM which can be irritating, with a seperate paid license. Proxmox has a web GUI natively on install which is super convenient and pretty much free for 90% of use cases.

throw0101d 11mo ago
> The web management portal requires Xen Orchestra and needs to be installed as a seperate VM which can be irritating, with a seperate paid license. Xen Orchestra appears to be open source: * https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra * https://docs.xen-orchestra.com/installation#from-the-sources https://docs.xen-orchestra.com/installation#from-the-sources See also perhaps: * https://github.com/ronivay/XenOrchestraInstallerUpdater https://github.com/ronivay/XenOrchestraInstallerUpdater * https://hub.docker.com/r/ronivay/xen-orchestra https://hub.docker.com/r/ronivay/xen-orchestra * Via: https://forums.lawrencesystems.com/t/how-to-build-xen-orchestra-from-sources-2024/19913 https://forums.lawrencesystems.com/t/how-to-build-xen-orches...
- iso1631 11mo ago
  Yup, I have two xen orchestras running on different vm clusters in different DCs managing about 8 pools (some on all the time, some in vehicles which are sometimes on, sometimes off), all open source, works well enough. I don't change the pools enough to make it worth automating the management.

JamesSwift 11mo ago

This channel (https://www.youtube.com/@LAWRENCESYSTEMS https://www.youtube.com/@LAWRENCESYSTEMS) has a lot of xcp-ng content, and also has several proxmox vs xcp-ng discussions over the years (eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et54DxAC2uM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et54DxAC2uM)