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Very minor point, in the grand scheme of things: when converting measurements from imperial to metric, I would be astonished if many recipes need more than two

Very minor point, in the grand scheme of things: when converting measurements from imperial to metric, I would be astonished if many recipes need more than two significant figures. When the recipe says "391.32 gram strained greek yogurt" I would not expect disaster to befall me if I only supplied 391.31g. A more major point is that I don't seem to be able to select text to copy and paste. I had to type out "391.32 gram strained greek yogurt" like some sort of caveman. And that makes me wonder what a screen reader would make of it...

AwkwardPanda 10mo ago
Thank you for the feedback. Will definitely release an update by tomorrow for this. Regarding selection of text, that has been a problem with flutter. I will find a way to make it selectable. There is an alternative. You can share the recipe or click print. There you would be able to select it. Or, you could share the recipe and it would be copied to your clipboard. I know that is not exactly what you want, but it will solve the purpose for now. I'll fix it soon. Apologies.
- pjsg 10mo ago
  I'm not convinced that the units conversion is right. The example of 2 Cups of greek yoghurt being 391.32 g. 1 US cup is 240 ml (or 236.5 ml depending on which type of cup you are using). The density of greek yoghurt is somewhere between 0.96 g/ml and 1.04 g/ml (depending on which website you trust the most). This leads me to calculate that 2 cups greek yoghurt weighs between 454 g and 499 g). The 391 g value is way off.
  - AwkwardPanda 10mo ago
    Thanks for pointing it out. I'll look into it and fix it by tomorrow.
- _bent 10mo ago
  This should do the trick https://api.flutter.dev/flutter/material/SelectionArea-class.html https://api.flutter.dev/flutter/material/SelectionArea-class...
nkrisc 10mo ago
My kitchen scale only shows grams to the nearest integer anyway.
ibejoeb 10mo ago
For recipes, I prefer to use approximate round figures when talking in terms of metric and American customary. So, 1 fl oz is 30 ml, a pound of flour is 450 g, etc. These are much easier to measure, scale, and remember. There are very few contexts where minute differences matter, and I don't think you're going to find a material crossover figure between those that want recipe help and those that are working on the kind of stuff where it matters.
- chrysoprace 10mo ago
  That works for some recipes, but for bread precise is better. I'm astonished when I read bread recipes that casually ask for 2 cups of flour (which could be wildly different amounts).
  - bigstrat2003 10mo ago
    You don't need to get that precise to make bread. I've made bread successfully all the time with volume measurements, it's not like the recipes are that finicky.
    - mlyle 10mo ago
      You can be wildly off in baking and produce an edible, enjoyable product. Especially if you have a sense of how to adjust the consistency of what you're mixing and can adjust baking times. But-- if you use weight measurements and attend to precision, you'll have to adjust a lot less and you'll come much closer to the best possible output.
    - chrysoprace 10mo ago
      It's not that you can't, it's just that it's harder to get consistent results. Switching to weight measurements is the first advice I give to any friends who are struggling with making bread.
  - valleyer 10mo ago
    Looking through your comments, your spelling indicates you might be from a Commonwealth country, which means you might not be familiar with the fact that a "cup" is a standardized measurement in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cup_(unit)#Customary_cup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cup_(unit)#Customary_cup
atonse 10mo ago
This reminds me of making a trip to a jeweler when I was < 10 years old, and noticing that they had a weighing scale that seemed to be down to decimal points of a gram (which I guess counts when you're weighing gold, etc). And the numbers kept changing even when the scale was empty. I think I had a whole conversation with my grandpa about why that was happening, and we came up with "probably just variations in air/breeze around the scale causing them to change" No idea if that's actually what it was, but it's plausible if you're doing sub-gram weighing?
- School-Cotton 10mo ago
  I have a scale in my kitchen that measures with 0.1g precision, and it doesn't do what you describe (change while you're not touching it). Perhaps technology has advanced since the anecdote you describe? Or maybe my scale is just lying to me.
  - atonse 10mo ago
    Hmmm then I bet it was a flaw. Or maybe modern scales have microcontrollers that adjust for this? This was a scale in a jeweler in India. It might have been in the late 80s or mid-90s. I might be misremembering too. So take my anecdote with a grain of salt.
    - School-Cotton 10mo ago
      > Or maybe modern scales have microcontrollers that adjust for this? This seems likely to me.
    - zahlman 10mo ago
      > So take my anecdote with a grain of salt. Oh, come on. Surely the scale wasn't that precise.
  - ceejayoz 10mo ago
    Your scale may smooth out the fluctuations automatically. Mine takes a little while to notice when I'm adding something like a tenth of a gram of yeast to a recipe.
folli 10mo ago
Also, depending on the ingredient, it makes more sense to use cups as a measurement of volume, not mass, when converting to metric. E.g. liquids, yoghurt etc. Another thing: although not strictly metric, but European recipes also use tablespoon and teaspoon as measurements for smaller volumes, so no need to convert this. Just my two cents, other than that very nice work!!
- AwkwardPanda 10mo ago
  Thanks for the feedback. I've made a note.
  - nextaccountic 10mo ago
    so use cups and tablespoons but put in parenthesis the value in mL
    - AwkwardPanda 10mo ago
      Certainly. That would provide a good user experience. Thank you.
- djoldman 10mo ago
  Please, please try using weight whenever possible, aka for all amounts >= 2 grams. 1. People are bad at measuring volume. This has been tested. There is much more variance in amounts measured by volume than be weight. See "science and cooking" (ferran adria). 2. Using a scale means doing a lot fewer dishes! (measuring cups, spoons, etc.) 3. It's faster, try it!
- ThomasMidgley 10mo ago
  "Also, depending on the ingredient, it makes more sense to use cups as a measurement of volume, not mass, when converting to metric." Hmmm... What kind of cup? :-) US "legal" cup (240ml) US customary cup (246,6ml) metric cup (250ml) UK cup (170,5ml) edit: fixed typo 150ml -> 250ml
  - 10mo ago
netsharc 10mo ago
An Apple press release about how much gold they could recover from recycled iPhones pissed me off so much. And all the "journalists" just copied and pasted the number with too many significant digits... It said "Apple recovered 2204lbs of gold" from recycled iPhones. Guess who just did a plain conversion from a tonne (1000kg) to lbs. The whole environmental report from Apple had more numbers, and you could clearly see that they were all converted from metric to imperial and made to look really precise... "We recovered two thousand and four pounds of gold!" sounds a lot more precisely calculated than "we recovered about 1000kg of gold" ("Not 2203lbs, not 2205lbs, but 2204lbs!"). And no journalist caught this... https://www.huffpost.com/entry/apple-ton-of-gold-recycling_n_57138745e4b0018f9cba4899 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/apple-ton-of-gold-recycling_n... including a link to the full report. Appropriately from a website cosplaying as journalism
- she46BiOmUerPVj 10mo ago
  sigfigs people!
AwkwardPanda 10mo ago
This is fixed. Please download the latest version on app store. Also live on the website.

AwkwardPanda 10mo ago

Thank you for the feedback. Will definitely release an update by tomorrow for this. Regarding selection of text, that has been a problem with flutter. I will find a way to make it selectable. There is an alternative. You can share the recipe or click print. There you would be able to select it. Or, you could share the recipe and it would be copied to your clipboard. I know that is not exactly what you want, but it will solve the purpose for now. I'll fix it soon. Apologies.

pjsg 10mo ago
I'm not convinced that the units conversion is right. The example of 2 Cups of greek yoghurt being 391.32 g. 1 US cup is 240 ml (or 236.5 ml depending on which type of cup you are using). The density of greek yoghurt is somewhere between 0.96 g/ml and 1.04 g/ml (depending on which website you trust the most). This leads me to calculate that 2 cups greek yoghurt weighs between 454 g and 499 g). The 391 g value is way off.
- AwkwardPanda 10mo ago
  Thanks for pointing it out. I'll look into it and fix it by tomorrow.
_bent 10mo ago
This should do the trick https://api.flutter.dev/flutter/material/SelectionArea-class.html https://api.flutter.dev/flutter/material/SelectionArea-class...

nkrisc 10mo ago

My kitchen scale only shows grams to the nearest integer anyway.

ibejoeb 10mo ago

For recipes, I prefer to use approximate round figures when talking in terms of metric and American customary. So, 1 fl oz is 30 ml, a pound of flour is 450 g, etc. These are much easier to measure, scale, and remember. There are very few contexts where minute differences matter, and I don't think you're going to find a material crossover figure between those that want recipe help and those that are working on the kind of stuff where it matters.

chrysoprace 10mo ago
That works for some recipes, but for bread precise is better. I'm astonished when I read bread recipes that casually ask for 2 cups of flour (which could be wildly different amounts).
- bigstrat2003 10mo ago
  You don't need to get that precise to make bread. I've made bread successfully all the time with volume measurements, it's not like the recipes are that finicky.
  - mlyle 10mo ago
    You can be wildly off in baking and produce an edible, enjoyable product. Especially if you have a sense of how to adjust the consistency of what you're mixing and can adjust baking times. But-- if you use weight measurements and attend to precision, you'll have to adjust a lot less and you'll come much closer to the best possible output.
  - chrysoprace 10mo ago
    It's not that you can't, it's just that it's harder to get consistent results. Switching to weight measurements is the first advice I give to any friends who are struggling with making bread.
- valleyer 10mo ago
  Looking through your comments, your spelling indicates you might be from a Commonwealth country, which means you might not be familiar with the fact that a "cup" is a standardized measurement in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cup_(unit)#Customary_cup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cup_(unit)#Customary_cup

atonse 10mo ago

This reminds me of making a trip to a jeweler when I was < 10 years old, and noticing that they had a weighing scale that seemed to be down to decimal points of a gram (which I guess counts when you're weighing gold, etc). And the numbers kept changing even when the scale was empty. I think I had a whole conversation with my grandpa about why that was happening, and we came up with "probably just variations in air/breeze around the scale causing them to change" No idea if that's actually what it was, but it's plausible if you're doing sub-gram weighing?

School-Cotton 10mo ago
I have a scale in my kitchen that measures with 0.1g precision, and it doesn't do what you describe (change while you're not touching it). Perhaps technology has advanced since the anecdote you describe? Or maybe my scale is just lying to me.
- atonse 10mo ago
  Hmmm then I bet it was a flaw. Or maybe modern scales have microcontrollers that adjust for this? This was a scale in a jeweler in India. It might have been in the late 80s or mid-90s. I might be misremembering too. So take my anecdote with a grain of salt.
  - School-Cotton 10mo ago
    > Or maybe modern scales have microcontrollers that adjust for this? This seems likely to me.
  - zahlman 10mo ago
    > So take my anecdote with a grain of salt. Oh, come on. Surely the scale wasn't that precise.
- ceejayoz 10mo ago
  Your scale may smooth out the fluctuations automatically. Mine takes a little while to notice when I'm adding something like a tenth of a gram of yeast to a recipe.

folli 10mo ago

Also, depending on the ingredient, it makes more sense to use cups as a measurement of volume, not mass, when converting to metric. E.g. liquids, yoghurt etc. Another thing: although not strictly metric, but European recipes also use tablespoon and teaspoon as measurements for smaller volumes, so no need to convert this. Just my two cents, other than that very nice work!!

AwkwardPanda 10mo ago
Thanks for the feedback. I've made a note.
- nextaccountic 10mo ago
  so use cups and tablespoons but put in parenthesis the value in mL
  - AwkwardPanda 10mo ago
    Certainly. That would provide a good user experience. Thank you.
djoldman 10mo ago
Please, please try using weight whenever possible, aka for all amounts >= 2 grams. 1. People are bad at measuring volume. This has been tested. There is much more variance in amounts measured by volume than be weight. See "science and cooking" (ferran adria). 2. Using a scale means doing a lot fewer dishes! (measuring cups, spoons, etc.) 3. It's faster, try it!
ThomasMidgley 10mo ago
"Also, depending on the ingredient, it makes more sense to use cups as a measurement of volume, not mass, when converting to metric." Hmmm... What kind of cup? :-) US "legal" cup (240ml) US customary cup (246,6ml) metric cup (250ml) UK cup (170,5ml) edit: fixed typo 150ml -> 250ml
- 10mo ago

netsharc 10mo ago

An Apple press release about how much gold they could recover from recycled iPhones pissed me off so much. And all the "journalists" just copied and pasted the number with too many significant digits... It said "Apple recovered 2204lbs of gold" from recycled iPhones. Guess who just did a plain conversion from a tonne (1000kg) to lbs. The whole environmental report from Apple had more numbers, and you could clearly see that they were all converted from metric to imperial and made to look really precise... "We recovered two thousand and four pounds of gold!" sounds a lot more precisely calculated than "we recovered about 1000kg of gold" ("Not 2203lbs, not 2205lbs, but 2204lbs!"). And no journalist caught this... https://www.huffpost.com/entry/apple-ton-of-gold-recycling_n_57138745e4b0018f9cba4899 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/apple-ton-of-gold-recycling_n... including a link to the full report. Appropriately from a website cosplaying as journalism

she46BiOmUerPVj 10mo ago
sigfigs people!

AwkwardPanda 10mo ago

This is fixed. Please download the latest version on app store. Also live on the website.