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> the move I personally enjoyed engaging in was getting my account blocked. Interesting idea. What did you do? > say something "harmful" like "stonetoss is ha

by latexr 11mo ago

> the move I personally enjoyed engaging in was getting my account blocked. Interesting idea. What did you do? > say something "harmful" like "stonetoss is hans kristian graebener". What that it?

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DiabloD3 11mo ago
Stonetoss is a well known comic by an alt-Right Neo-Nazi. He kept his identity secret for years (for obvious reasons), but was outed a few years back. He received a lot of hate over this, and got fired from his tech job over it. The comic was antitrans, antisemitic (with full-on Holocaust denial), racist, and sexist... but Graebener himself is a Latino, so he gets hated on by both the Left and the Right. Websites that cater to the alt-Right ban users for saying his real name and ban people who make Stonetoss memes that shit on Graebener for being a Nazi. And you know why HN is actually a great place? dang isn't going to ban me for repeating verifiable facts.
- sixtyj 11mo ago
  HN is the safe space. People argue and disagree here but somehow in pleasant way I haven’t seen anywhere else. So dang has easy job :)) And as you can downvote a comment so HN is self-regulating.
  - hyghjiyhu 11mo ago
    It's a sign of someone gifted that they make everything look easy
  - latexr 11mo ago
    > People argue and disagree here but somehow in pleasant way I haven’t seen anywhere else. Turn on `showdead` in your settings (or don’t, probably for the best) and be prepared to read some nasty comments. No substance, only hate. There are a few on this very submission.
    - GaryBluto 11mo ago
      I have showdead enabled and I haven't seen anything particularly vitriolic on this post. One troll comment maybe, but that's it. I think it's a mistake to imply that just because a comment is dead because it was flagged that it is hateful. The vouch button exists for a reason.
      - latexr 11mo ago
        > I think it's a mistake to imply that just because a comment is dead because it was flagged that it is hateful. I wish people would stop inventing arguments and “reading between the lines” when interpreting comments from people they don’t know. There was no implication. Whatever you think you read is only in your head. Of course not every flagged and dead comment is hateful. But hateful comments do get flagged so that’s where you’ll find them.
        tb_technical 11mo ago
        I'm about to do what you just asked people not to do. Perhaps, we're so used to dishonest interlocutors online that we search for intentions in people's statements? Sorry, I had to.
- computerthings 11mo ago
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catapart 11mo ago
That was the thing that got me blocked enough for it to stick. But it was right during the height of that meme, so I doubt it would go far now. Unless a bunch of people all started doing it or something. If you're looking for something that might actually work right now, though, I think there's still some weird libertarian-ish "principle" they're pretending makes it wrong to post elon's (or others') flight information. At least that would be where I would start, because I don't like to bother people that don't deserve it, so general abusiveness is out, and it's funny to throw their free speech bullshit back in their face.

by latexr 11mo ago

> the move I personally enjoyed engaging in was getting my account blocked. Interesting idea. What did you do? > say something "harmful" like "stonetoss is hans kristian graebener". What that it?

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DiabloD3 11mo ago

Stonetoss is a well known comic by an alt-Right Neo-Nazi. He kept his identity secret for years (for obvious reasons), but was outed a few years back. He received a lot of hate over this, and got fired from his tech job over it. The comic was antitrans, antisemitic (with full-on Holocaust denial), racist, and sexist... but Graebener himself is a Latino, so he gets hated on by both the Left and the Right. Websites that cater to the alt-Right ban users for saying his real name and ban people who make Stonetoss memes that shit on Graebener for being a Nazi. And you know why HN is actually a great place? dang isn't going to ban me for repeating verifiable facts.

sixtyj 11mo ago
HN is the safe space. People argue and disagree here but somehow in pleasant way I haven’t seen anywhere else. So dang has easy job :)) And as you can downvote a comment so HN is self-regulating.
- hyghjiyhu 11mo ago
  It's a sign of someone gifted that they make everything look easy
- latexr 11mo ago
  > People argue and disagree here but somehow in pleasant way I haven’t seen anywhere else. Turn on `showdead` in your settings (or don’t, probably for the best) and be prepared to read some nasty comments. No substance, only hate. There are a few on this very submission.
  - GaryBluto 11mo ago
    I have showdead enabled and I haven't seen anything particularly vitriolic on this post. One troll comment maybe, but that's it. I think it's a mistake to imply that just because a comment is dead because it was flagged that it is hateful. The vouch button exists for a reason.
    - latexr 11mo ago
      > I think it's a mistake to imply that just because a comment is dead because it was flagged that it is hateful. I wish people would stop inventing arguments and “reading between the lines” when interpreting comments from people they don’t know. There was no implication. Whatever you think you read is only in your head. Of course not every flagged and dead comment is hateful. But hateful comments do get flagged so that’s where you’ll find them.
      - tb_technical 11mo ago
        I'm about to do what you just asked people not to do. Perhaps, we're so used to dishonest interlocutors online that we search for intentions in people's statements? Sorry, I had to.
computerthings 11mo ago
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catapart 11mo ago

That was the thing that got me blocked enough for it to stick. But it was right during the height of that meme, so I doubt it would go far now. Unless a bunch of people all started doing it or something. If you're looking for something that might actually work right now, though, I think there's still some weird libertarian-ish "principle" they're pretending makes it wrong to post elon's (or others') flight information. At least that would be where I would start, because I don't like to bother people that don't deserve it, so general abusiveness is out, and it's funny to throw their free speech bullshit back in their face.