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That's a lot of words with not a lot of substance. I suppose their whole identity is announcing that they're superior to other people and branching off, while a
by scottyah 11mo ago
That's a lot of words with not a lot of substance. I suppose their whole identity is announcing that they're superior to other people and branching off, while asking for money for what looks like mostly sending people to talk at events (which are probably mostly more fundraising).
> "In the current situation we see ourselves unable to collaborate both with the FSF and any other organisation[sic] in which Richard Stallman has a leading position."
I do wish more people would try to fix things from the inside, and I get there's a point where it's no longer possible, but in this case it sounds like they didn't like people calling them out on X and had no way to control the narrative. What other gain would there be for a group trying to spread information in as many channels as possible?
- n4r9 11mo agoWhat strategies could FSF employ to "fix things from the inside" on Twitter?
- scottyah 11mo agoTalk openly and transparently with whomever is not aligning with their ideals. They used to call it discussion.
- catapart 11mo agolol imagine thinking you can discuss a hopped up ket-head into "aligning with your ideals".
- scottyah 11mo agoit's the town square- it's not about the two people talking but for everyone reading what they said instead of controlling the narrative by only speaking to people you want in places you want. They don't even have to answer to everyone, so the only benefit of losing access to thousands/millions of people is to make an article like this for Pride.
- n4r9 11mo agoIt's hard to tell whether it's still really a town square, since the only information we have about X's usage is tweets from Musk.
- scottyah 11mo agoI just mean that in the way that this site is a town square, or all of the rfc's, in that anyone can (for free) see all of the discussions and participate. Just like a town square, not every comment has to be addressed or promoted equally, but I don't know of a better way to release information and allow for anyone to discuss it with others.
- n4r9 11mo agoI'm not really sure I see your point, then. An organisation like the FSF is going to be pretty resource-strapped, so it makes sense that they're selective about where to maintain a public presence. Why should they stay on Twitter when it's highly dubious that they're getting any value from it or vice versa?
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- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 11mo agoWhat if the problem they were facing on Twitter was that others weren't doing their part in the open and transparent discussion?
- scottyah 11mo agoHow would it not be open and transparent on twitter? It's a site where everyone can see what they are talking about. It's only when they try to limit to whom and where they talk to people that they are not open and transparent.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 11mo ago> How would it not be open and transparent on twitter? Lying. Trolling. Bullshitting. Stonewalling. > It's only when they try to limit to whom and where they talk to people that they are not open and transparent. I don't need to talk to you or use your favored public platform for my published material to be open and transparent on some other public platform.
- scottyah 11mo ago> Lying. Trolling. Bullshitting. Stonewalling. What do these have to do with open and transparent communication? > I don't need to talk to you or use your favored public platform for my published material to be open and transparent on some other public platform. Very true, but limiting the platforms limits the openness and transparency. With some simple software you can post to all with almost no effort. Seems weird to disclude one just to write a blog post about it for attention.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 11mo ago> What do these have to do with open and transparent communication? If I'm lying to you, I'm being neither open nor transparent, by definition. > Very true, but limiting the platforms limits the openness and transparency. It only limits the audience who will see it incidentally. Anyone who's looking for it can still find it. > With some simple software you can post to all with almost no effort. I rather suspect that they are avoiding the platform for reasons other than the effort it takes to simply create a post. This seems moot in context.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 11mo agoThe pull quote doesn't appear in the linked article. What is it from? edit: https://fsfe.org/about/fsfnetwork.html https://fsfe.org/about/fsfnetwork.html
- venturecruelty 11mo agoWho knew that an ideologically-oriented organization would have morals and values, and that they wouldn't be aligned with Leon? Maybe they should've just sold out to AI, then they'd get a ticker tape parade.
- scottyah 11mo agoFrom what I saw, their page has a lot of writing and no data on successes. I think that sums it up. They sold out to Pride instead of Greed.
- venturecruelty 11mo agoI'm not sure why this affects you so much.
- scottyah 11mo agoI guess I got nerd sniped. I don't really enjoy replying to all the comments, but it is what I'm advocating for so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯