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An example, not current, is that the US Government censored all access to wikileaks in 2010 - enforced for all Federal workers, military personal, etc. You can

by defrost 11mo ago

An example, not current, is that the US Government censored all access to wikileaks in 2010 - enforced for all Federal workers, military personal, etc. You can certainly argue that this was ineffective censorship that could be evaded, but it was, in fact, censorship by the US Government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_United_States#Information_leaks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_United_State... It's the same across the world, countries that routinely censor material still have their citizens evading censorship. Also: Analysts from Reporters Without Borders ranked the United States 57th in the world out of 180 countries in their 2025 Press Freedom Index and they gave the country a "problematic" designation. Certain forms of speech, such as obscenity and defamation, are restricted in communications media by the government or by the industry on its own. ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_United_State... ~ https://rsf.org/en/index?year=2024 https://rsf.org/en/index?year=2024

cosmicgadget 11mo ago
That is a pretty tiny straw to grasp at considering we are talking about Russia blocking international media because they don't want people to know about homosexuality and SMO casualty numbers.
- defrost 11mo ago
  No straw of any size is being grasped here. The GP comment asked for examples of censorship in the US. Examples were provided.
  - cosmicgadget 11mo ago
    Wikileaks isn't censored in the US. To say that government employees being instructed to respect the classification of public documents is... certainly one interpretation of censorship. Libel isn't media that is censored in the US and available internationally.
    - defrost 11mo ago
      Was the statements made by Jimmy Kimmel Libel? Did senior figures in the crrent US administration successfully (temporarily) have the entire show pulled? The US practices censorship - it's not overt, the fish can't see the water, but it's there via manufactured consent. Returning to the actual question I addressed: > Could you share an example of some censored media in the US that's available elsewhere? Wikileaks is a clear example of material censorered by the US Government that was restricted from common US employees despite appearing in newspapers and not being restricted from the eyes of other peer military and goverment personal in many other countries.
      - cosmicgadget 11mo ago
        There's no doubt the current administration is waging a war of suppression against anything they consider opposed to them. So Kimmel, Perkins Coie, visa holders/applicants... they are the target of mob tactics where censorship via retaliation is but one of the coercive effects. It might be that our system's reliance on norms has been exposed as a fatal flaw. On the other hand, the executive is only wielding its discretionary powers, so the current campaign of censorship may only last this term. We haven't put up a great firewall. We haven't nationalized news media. The Wikileaks thing is so minimal that if you wanted to provide examples of US censorship you should have said CSAM and been done with it. The site was not blocked in the US. It didn't affect anyone but federal employees and clearance holders. No one could go to prison for viewing the leaked documents. And wikileaks wasn't arbitrarily targeted, there is a longstanding, opt-in employment policy that classification and need to know apply even to spillages.

by defrost 11mo ago

cosmicgadget 11mo ago

That is a pretty tiny straw to grasp at considering we are talking about Russia blocking international media because they don't want people to know about homosexuality and SMO casualty numbers.

defrost 11mo ago
No straw of any size is being grasped here. The GP comment asked for examples of censorship in the US. Examples were provided.
- cosmicgadget 11mo ago
  Wikileaks isn't censored in the US. To say that government employees being instructed to respect the classification of public documents is... certainly one interpretation of censorship. Libel isn't media that is censored in the US and available internationally.
  - defrost 11mo ago
    Was the statements made by Jimmy Kimmel Libel? Did senior figures in the crrent US administration successfully (temporarily) have the entire show pulled? The US practices censorship - it's not overt, the fish can't see the water, but it's there via manufactured consent. Returning to the actual question I addressed: > Could you share an example of some censored media in the US that's available elsewhere? Wikileaks is a clear example of material censorered by the US Government that was restricted from common US employees despite appearing in newspapers and not being restricted from the eyes of other peer military and goverment personal in many other countries.
    - cosmicgadget 11mo ago
      There's no doubt the current administration is waging a war of suppression against anything they consider opposed to them. So Kimmel, Perkins Coie, visa holders/applicants... they are the target of mob tactics where censorship via retaliation is but one of the coercive effects. It might be that our system's reliance on norms has been exposed as a fatal flaw. On the other hand, the executive is only wielding its discretionary powers, so the current campaign of censorship may only last this term. We haven't put up a great firewall. We haven't nationalized news media. The Wikileaks thing is so minimal that if you wanted to provide examples of US censorship you should have said CSAM and been done with it. The site was not blocked in the US. It didn't affect anyone but federal employees and clearance holders. No one could go to prison for viewing the leaked documents. And wikileaks wasn't arbitrarily targeted, there is a longstanding, opt-in employment policy that classification and need to know apply even to spillages.