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the other side of the AI bubble are a huge amount of 2nd hand parts of all kinds going to come onto the market?
by ggm 11mo ago
the other side of the AI bubble are a huge amount of 2nd hand parts of all kinds going to come onto the market?
- mxfh 11mo agoWaiting for all my out of use 4, 8, and 16GB DDR3 DIMMs that I have somewhere in a drawer to become the new gold standard first.
- willis936 11mo agoI'm finding that getting an LGA socket to give me two reliable memory channels is far more valuable than the sticks that go into them. I've got at least two motherboards in use at my home right now with only one working channel of memory. There are sticks just sitting around.
- bhaney 11mo agoMy pile of worthless 512MB DDR1 sticks has bad news for you
- venturecruelty 11mo agoNo, they'll be shipped off to developing nations to be dissolved for rare earths for the next boom cycle.
- kragen 11mo agoMemory chips don't contain rare earths, and e-waste recyclers pay a tiny fraction of what used-hardware buyers do.
- venturecruelty 11mo agoMy point was not to litigate the precise method of e-waste disposal.
- kragen 11mo agoYour point was to post nonsense without caring about whether it was true or false in order to troll someone into responding. Please don't do that again.
- venturecruelty 11mo agoAnd your point was to nitpick a rhetorical statement and miss the point entirely. Feel free to disengage.
- kragen 11mo agoI don't think you should comment on this site again if you aren't willing to comment in good faith. I pointed out that your original statement was completely false, and rather than thanking me for the correction, you responded defensively and then attacked me. This shows that you don't care whether what you posted was true or not. That's corrosive to the presumption of good faith we employ here. If you aren't willing to behave properly, you shouldn't be here.
- type0 11mo agoMemory chips are divertied to registered server RAM and those will not fit most workstations
- bpye 11mo agoNothing stops you building an EPYC based workstation. For the last socket you could even get mATX boards from Asrock Rack which were kind of ridiculous - I was very tempted to build my PC around one.
- magarnicle 11mo agoAll in a pretty bad state of wear, I imagine.
- bpye 11mo agoAt least with ECC memory it's very obvious when its failing as you'll see reported correctable errors.
- swatcoder 11mo agoA lot of the goods won't be essily repurposible for consumer or small business work loads. Imagine if auto manufacturers all refitted their factories and supply chains to produce military vehicles for a war effort. New family cars would run dry, and when the war ended, some folks would figure out make clever use of some surplus military vehicles for street travel and commerce, but most of the surplus would just be shifted to other military markets and family car production would take some time to resume.
- snek_case 11mo agoYou can buy old rackmount servers on ebay for relatively cheap and used them as desktop PCs AFAIK (though they can be on the noisier side).
- hypercube33 11mo agoAliExpress has been selling 2010 or whatever Intel xeons in dual socket desktop board kits for gaming. they are fairly affordable and hold up to almost modern games so people that can't afford new gen systems.
- deltoidmaximus 11mo agoThese products are fascinating. When I looked at them it seemed like they pulled old chipsets from server boards or maybe they found stock somewhere and then combined them with south bridges from things like Z77 boards. All to make use of obsolete server CPUs that were cheap and available. Amazing and wonderful. Meanwhile you've got OpenAI buying up all the DRAM and maybe just piling it in a warehouse so no one else can have it or they figure out what to do with it. Microsoft recently said they don't even have a power source to plug the ton of GPUs they just bought into so they're also just sitting around collecting dust. What is even happening?
- edm0nd 11mo agoI would snag up every possible H100 and H200 if the AI bubble burst and their prices went into steep decline.
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- gblargg 11mo agoUnless it drags on for years so that the parts are old by the time everything gets liquidated.
- Havoc 11mo agoYeah though expecting that to A) take years still and B) the gear will be old AF Bit like you could get NVIDIA Server cards before things went crazy but they’re on ancient cuda etc so not exactly as glorious as one would imagine