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Outside of tech, I think the opinion is generally negative. AI has lost a lot the narrative due to things like energy prices and layoffs.

deaux 10mo ago
Globally, the opinion isn't generally negative. It's localized.
- ajkjk 10mo ago
  What does that mean?
- nateglims 10mo ago
  Sure, I meant the anglosphere. But in most countries, the less people are aware of technology or use the internet the less they are enthusiastic about AI.
  - deaux 10mo ago
    I don't see the correlation between technology/internet use and man-on-the-street attitudes towards AI. Compare Sweden with Japan.
    - nateglims 10mo ago
      Its a weak proxy for people who are not in tech. In polling japan and sweden are very similar in terms of sentiment though: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/10/15/how-people-around-the-world-view-ai/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/10/15/how-people-aro...
      - deaux 10mo ago
        I still don't see it. Look at some of the countries with the highest relatively high individual "personal tech usage" as well as "percentage of workers/economy connected to tech": South Korea, Israel, Japan, the US, UK, the Netherlands. The first three are on the positive end, the next two on the negative end, and the last one in the middle. "Region of the world" correlation looks a lot stronger than that.
throw234234234 10mo ago
Would agree with this and think it is more than just your reasons, especially if you venture outside the US at least from what I've experienced. I've seen it at least personally more so where AI tech hubs aren't around and there is no way to "get in on the action". I see blue collar workers who are less threatened ask me directly with less to lose - why would anyone want to invent this? One of the reasons the average person on the street doesn't relate well to tech workers in general; there is a perceived lack of "street smarts" and self preservation. Anecdotally its almost like they see them like mad scientists who are happy blowing up themselves and the world if they get to play with the new toy; almost childlike usually thinking they are doing "good" in the process. Which is seen as a sign of a lack of a type of intelligence/maturity by most people.
sunaookami 10mo ago
ChatGPT is one of the most used websites in the world and it's used by the most normal people in the world, in what way is the opinion "generally negative"?
- johnnyanmac 10mo ago
  ChatGPT for the common folk is used in the same way PirateBay is. Something can be "popular" and also "bad"
  - sunaookami 10mo ago
    The argument was that common folk see it as "bad" which is clearly not the case.
    - johnnyanmac 10mo ago
      Yes, and I made an argument supporting that "used" and "it's bad" are not mutually exclusive . You simply repeated what I responded to and asserted you're the right opinion. It's clearly not that straightforward.
      - sunaookami 10mo ago
        I get your argument but in this case it is that straightforward because it's not a forced monopoly like e.g. Microsoft Windows. Common folk decided to use ChatGPT because they think it is good. Think Google Search, it got its market position because it was good.
        johnnyanmac 10mo ago
        >Common folk decided to use ChatGPT because they think it is good. That is not the only reason to use a tool you think is bad. "good enough" doesn't mean "good". If you think it's better to generate an essay due in an hour then rush something by hand, that doesn't mean it's "good". If I decide to make a toy app full of useless branches, no documentation, and tons of sleep calls, it doesn't mean the program is "good". It's just "good enough". That's the core issue here. "good enough" varies on the context, and not too many people are using it like the sales pitch to boost the productivity of the already productive.

deaux 10mo ago

Globally, the opinion isn't generally negative. It's localized.

ajkjk 10mo ago
What does that mean?
nateglims 10mo ago
Sure, I meant the anglosphere. But in most countries, the less people are aware of technology or use the internet the less they are enthusiastic about AI.
- deaux 10mo ago
  I don't see the correlation between technology/internet use and man-on-the-street attitudes towards AI. Compare Sweden with Japan.
  - nateglims 10mo ago
    Its a weak proxy for people who are not in tech. In polling japan and sweden are very similar in terms of sentiment though: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/10/15/how-people-around-the-world-view-ai/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/10/15/how-people-aro...
    - deaux 10mo ago
      I still don't see it. Look at some of the countries with the highest relatively high individual "personal tech usage" as well as "percentage of workers/economy connected to tech": South Korea, Israel, Japan, the US, UK, the Netherlands. The first three are on the positive end, the next two on the negative end, and the last one in the middle. "Region of the world" correlation looks a lot stronger than that.

throw234234234 10mo ago

Would agree with this and think it is more than just your reasons, especially if you venture outside the US at least from what I've experienced. I've seen it at least personally more so where AI tech hubs aren't around and there is no way to "get in on the action". I see blue collar workers who are less threatened ask me directly with less to lose - why would anyone want to invent this? One of the reasons the average person on the street doesn't relate well to tech workers in general; there is a perceived lack of "street smarts" and self preservation. Anecdotally its almost like they see them like mad scientists who are happy blowing up themselves and the world if they get to play with the new toy; almost childlike usually thinking they are doing "good" in the process. Which is seen as a sign of a lack of a type of intelligence/maturity by most people.

sunaookami 10mo ago

ChatGPT is one of the most used websites in the world and it's used by the most normal people in the world, in what way is the opinion "generally negative"?

johnnyanmac 10mo ago
ChatGPT for the common folk is used in the same way PirateBay is. Something can be "popular" and also "bad"
- sunaookami 10mo ago
  The argument was that common folk see it as "bad" which is clearly not the case.
  - johnnyanmac 10mo ago
    Yes, and I made an argument supporting that "used" and "it's bad" are not mutually exclusive . You simply repeated what I responded to and asserted you're the right opinion. It's clearly not that straightforward.
    - sunaookami 10mo ago
      I get your argument but in this case it is that straightforward because it's not a forced monopoly like e.g. Microsoft Windows. Common folk decided to use ChatGPT because they think it is good. Think Google Search, it got its market position because it was good.
      - johnnyanmac 10mo ago
        >Common folk decided to use ChatGPT because they think it is good. That is not the only reason to use a tool you think is bad. "good enough" doesn't mean "good". If you think it's better to generate an essay due in an hour then rush something by hand, that doesn't mean it's "good". If I decide to make a toy app full of useless branches, no documentation, and tons of sleep calls, it doesn't mean the program is "good". It's just "good enough". That's the core issue here. "good enough" varies on the context, and not too many people are using it like the sales pitch to boost the productivity of the already productive.