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It’s not only the hype though. What about the complete lack of morality some (most?) AI companies exhibit? What about the consequences in the environment? Wh

by pier25 11mo ago

It’s not only the hype though. What about the complete lack of morality some (most?) AI companies exhibit? What about the consequences in the environment? What about the enshitification of products? What about the usage of water and energy? Etc.

parineum 11mo ago
Is your "etc." keep repeating the same two points you did in your list of four?
- pier25 11mo ago
  What about the RAM price surge? What about diverting funding from much more useful and needed things? What about automation of scams, surveillance, etc? I can keep going. There are plenty of reasons to hate on AI beyond hype.
  - parineum 11mo ago
    > What about the RAM price surge? It's a bit more expensive. It's not the end of the world. Production will likely increase if the demand is consistent. > What about diverting funding from much more useful and needed things? And who determines that? People put there money where they want to. People think AI will provide value to other people and those people will, therefore, pay money for AI. So the funding that AI is receiving is directly proportional to how useful and needed people think AI is. I disagree, but I'm not a dictator. > What about automation of scams, surveillance, etc? Technology makes things easier, including bad things. This isn't the first time this happened and it won't be the last. It also makes avoiding those things easier though but that usually lags a bit behind. > I can keep going. Please do because it seems like you're grasping at straws.
abustamam 11mo ago
Not to diminish your overall point, but enshittification has been happening well before AI, AI just made it much easier and faster to enshittify everything.
- jjgreen 11mo ago
  But AI allows us to make customised enshitification, think of the possibilities!
  - pier25 11mo ago
    We don't need to spend money on customer support!
    - red-iron-pine 11mo ago
      hell we don't need customers. we'll just get MS or Nvidia to invest in us, while leaning on their offerings.

by pier25 11mo ago

parineum 11mo ago

Is your "etc." keep repeating the same two points you did in your list of four?

pier25 11mo ago
What about the RAM price surge? What about diverting funding from much more useful and needed things? What about automation of scams, surveillance, etc? I can keep going. There are plenty of reasons to hate on AI beyond hype.
- parineum 11mo ago
  > What about the RAM price surge? It's a bit more expensive. It's not the end of the world. Production will likely increase if the demand is consistent. > What about diverting funding from much more useful and needed things? And who determines that? People put there money where they want to. People think AI will provide value to other people and those people will, therefore, pay money for AI. So the funding that AI is receiving is directly proportional to how useful and needed people think AI is. I disagree, but I'm not a dictator. > What about automation of scams, surveillance, etc? Technology makes things easier, including bad things. This isn't the first time this happened and it won't be the last. It also makes avoiding those things easier though but that usually lags a bit behind. > I can keep going. Please do because it seems like you're grasping at straws.

abustamam 11mo ago

Not to diminish your overall point, but enshittification has been happening well before AI, AI just made it much easier and faster to enshittify everything.

jjgreen 11mo ago
But AI allows us to make customised enshitification, think of the possibilities!
- pier25 11mo ago
  We don't need to spend money on customer support!
  - red-iron-pine 11mo ago
    hell we don't need customers. we'll just get MS or Nvidia to invest in us, while leaning on their offerings.