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> But because of family reunification There you go. You identified the actual cause yourself. > the decision to admit one skilled worker actually means one sk

> But because of family reunification There you go. You identified the actual cause yourself. > the decision to admit one skilled worker actually means one skilled worker plus potentially dozens of other people with no qualifications whatsoever. "Potentially no qualifications" is doing a lot of work there (strangely). What are the odds that only one person in the family is well-educated? And isn't IQ supposedly heritable? I'm personally neutral on family reunification. It undermines fairness but helps family cohesion. I understand arguments in favor of and against it, and there probably isn't a single right answer. I'm not convinced family members without any qualifications or a means of supporting themselves in the US would even leave their country. What's the point? And if they're truly useless, their relative who would otherwise sponsor their immigration visa might prefer just sending them some money. It would be cheaper than financially supporting them here. > instead they got Little Bangladeshes popping up all over the country From the little research I did, Bangladeshi-Americans have higher educational attainment and household incomes than the median. America has always had ethnic neighborhoods - German/China/Korea/Japantowns, little Italys. What's the issue?

venturecruelty 11mo ago
>From the little research I did, Bangladeshi-Americans have higher educational attainment and household incomes than the median. America has always had ethnic neighborhoods - German/China/Korea/Japantowns, little Italys. What's the issue? Some people have problems with other people's skin color.
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- rayiner 11mo ago
  The key difference between Scandinavian enclaves in Minnesota and Little Bangladesh isn't "skin color." It's order versus disorder. First world versus third world. Humans aren't just differently colored blank slates.
  - toomuchtodo 11mo ago
    You’re spot on, people are confusing economics and cultural assimilation concerns with racism. I don’t believe you’re racist (based on your comments), you’re just pointing out a loophole that allows mass migration via a skilled worker visa program (whether intentional or not) of a cohort of immigrant who might experience challenges assimilating into their target country culture. Culture isn’t magic land, it’s people, and their social values and norms. Are mass migrants via family reunification assimilating and adopting the culture of their new home? That’s an important question for those offering residency and potentially a path to citizenship. Very similar to why many European countries are offering economic migrants a return path to their country of origin when social and economic integration has failed.
    - rayiner 11mo ago
      Here’s a secret: Not only am I ethnically Bangladeshi, I enjoy Bangladeshis! I enjoy weddings where the aunties harass the couple about immediately having kids. I live 10 minutes from my parents and subject my Anglo wife to elaborate and overbearing family obligations and face saving rituals. Seeing Anglos with adult children waiting for grandkids that will never come genuinely fills me with existential dread. That is an entirely different consideration, however, than the economic and social effects of immigration of people like me in sufficient numbers to culturally reshape parts of America.
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    - triceratops 11mo ago
      > Are mass migrants via family reunification assimilating and adopting the culture of their new home? America has traditionally been excellent at assimilating migrants. Probably best in the world. I don't know why you're suddenly having doubts.
      - toomuchtodo 11mo ago
rayiner 11mo ago
The point is that H1B is marketed as selective immigration of highly skilled immigrants, but in practice it enables mass migration. Whether you think mass migration is a good thing is a different, and irrelevant, point. If you put "our immigration policy should enable the formation of places like Little Bangladesh" it would lose handily at the ballot box. (By the way, Bangladeshi Americans are poorer than the average American: "In a 2013, NPR discussion with a member of the Economic Policy Institute and co-author of the book The Myth of the Model Minority Rosalind Chou who is also a professor of sociology. One of them stated that 'When you break it down by specific ethnic groups, the Hmong, the Bangladeshi, they have poverty rates that rival the African-American poverty rate.'" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshi_Americans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshi_Americans)
- triceratops 11mo ago
  > By the way, Bangladeshi Americans are poorer than the average American The Wikipedia article is inaccurate. It claims that Bangladesh-Americans have a median household income of ~$59k. The actual sources cited by the article both say it's $78k: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/05/01/key-facts-about-asians-in-the-us/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/05/01/key-facts.... https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/fact-sheet/asian-americans-bangladeshis-in-the-u-s/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/fact-sheet/asian-a... I don't know what's up with that. $20k is obviously a big difference.

venturecruelty 11mo ago

>From the little research I did, Bangladeshi-Americans have higher educational attainment and household incomes than the median. America has always had ethnic neighborhoods - German/China/Korea/Japantowns, little Italys. What's the issue? Some people have problems with other people's skin color.

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rayiner 11mo ago
The key difference between Scandinavian enclaves in Minnesota and Little Bangladesh isn't "skin color." It's order versus disorder. First world versus third world. Humans aren't just differently colored blank slates.
- toomuchtodo 11mo ago
  You’re spot on, people are confusing economics and cultural assimilation concerns with racism. I don’t believe you’re racist (based on your comments), you’re just pointing out a loophole that allows mass migration via a skilled worker visa program (whether intentional or not) of a cohort of immigrant who might experience challenges assimilating into their target country culture. Culture isn’t magic land, it’s people, and their social values and norms. Are mass migrants via family reunification assimilating and adopting the culture of their new home? That’s an important question for those offering residency and potentially a path to citizenship. Very similar to why many European countries are offering economic migrants a return path to their country of origin when social and economic integration has failed.
  - rayiner 11mo ago
    Here’s a secret: Not only am I ethnically Bangladeshi, I enjoy Bangladeshis! I enjoy weddings where the aunties harass the couple about immediately having kids. I live 10 minutes from my parents and subject my Anglo wife to elaborate and overbearing family obligations and face saving rituals. Seeing Anglos with adult children waiting for grandkids that will never come genuinely fills me with existential dread. That is an entirely different consideration, however, than the economic and social effects of immigration of people like me in sufficient numbers to culturally reshape parts of America.
    - flag_fagger 11mo ago
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  - triceratops 11mo ago
    > Are mass migrants via family reunification assimilating and adopting the culture of their new home? America has traditionally been excellent at assimilating migrants. Probably best in the world. I don't know why you're suddenly having doubts.
    - toomuchtodo 11mo ago

rayiner 11mo ago

The point is that H1B is marketed as selective immigration of highly skilled immigrants, but in practice it enables mass migration. Whether you think mass migration is a good thing is a different, and irrelevant, point. If you put "our immigration policy should enable the formation of places like Little Bangladesh" it would lose handily at the ballot box. (By the way, Bangladeshi Americans are poorer than the average American: "In a 2013, NPR discussion with a member of the Economic Policy Institute and co-author of the book The Myth of the Model Minority Rosalind Chou who is also a professor of sociology. One of them stated that 'When you break it down by specific ethnic groups, the Hmong, the Bangladeshi, they have poverty rates that rival the African-American poverty rate.'" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshi_Americans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshi_Americans)

triceratops 11mo ago
> By the way, Bangladeshi Americans are poorer than the average American The Wikipedia article is inaccurate. It claims that Bangladesh-Americans have a median household income of ~$59k. The actual sources cited by the article both say it's $78k: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/05/01/key-facts-about-asians-in-the-us/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/05/01/key-facts.... https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/fact-sheet/asian-americans-bangladeshis-in-the-u-s/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/fact-sheet/asian-a... I don't know what's up with that. $20k is obviously a big difference.