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I love claude, but looking at google it seems like it will just be a matter of time before Google/Gemini will be a better product. Just looking at how much Goog

by muffa 11mo ago

I love claude, but looking at google it seems like it will just be a matter of time before Google/Gemini will be a better product. Just looking at how much Google have improved their AI game the last couple months. I'm putting my money on google, I assume the reason they are doing an IPO right now is to be able to cash in on the investment before google surpasses them. It's a hot take, I know :D

baq 11mo ago
Opus 4.5 is good. At least in Cursor it’s much better than Gemini 3 Pro for writing a lot of code autonomously: faster and calls tools better. That said Gemini is still very, very good at reviews, SQL, design and smaller (relatively) edits; but today it is not at all obvious that Google is going to win it all. They’re positioned very well, but execution needs to be top notch.
- esperent 11mo ago
  > much better than Gemini 3 Pro for writing a lot of code I know that people here are myopically focussed on code, but that's not what the majority of people use AI for. If Opus 4.5 is better than Gemini 3 for code, but the same or worse for most other uses (which seems to be the case according to benchmarks), that's great for us but terrible for Anthropic. Claude still can't even draw basic pictures, for example.
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aantix 11mo ago
Have you tried Opus 4.5? It's an absolute workhorse. It is so proactive in fixing blockers - 90% of the time for me, choosing the right path forward.
- parapatelsukh 11mo ago
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ramoz 11mo ago
No company has come close to producing as close as of a reliable agentic coding solution as Anthropic has.
nikcub 11mo ago
There have been multiple model generations now where Anthropic have proven that they're ahead of everyone with developing LLMs for coding - if anything the gap has broadened with Opus 4.5.
- wahnfrieden 11mo ago
  Codex is and has been superior for some time (though it is slower)
  - cebert 11mo ago
    What types of tasks do you find Codex superior?
N_Lens 11mo ago
Google are deep in the enshittification spiral and can't help themselves in kneecapping Gemini or imposing strict limits. Anthropic seem to atleast be a bit more customer centric.
- ewoodrich 11mo ago
  Anthropic's incessant cuts to CC rate limits/quota on the Claude Pro plan have nearly pushed me to cancel. If anything they're far ahead of Google on the enshittification schedule (who still give out API keys for free Gemini usage and a free tier on Gemini CLI, although CLI is still pretty shaky unfortunately but that's a different issue). It also doesn't help that CC will stop working literally in the middle of a task with zero heads up, or at best I get the 90% warning and then 30 seconds later have it stop working claiming I hit 100% after about two additional messages during the same task. I'm truly baffled by how they've managed to make the warnings as useless and aggravating as possible in CC and routinely shutdown while the repo is in a broken state, so I have to ask Codex to read the logs and piece things back together to continue working.
  - giwook 11mo ago
    You make it sound like Google is giving out free usage out of the goodness of their hearts.
    - ewoodrich 11mo ago
      Am I? I'm just comparing the relative degree of enshittification, implicit in that is nothing will last forever, Gemini freebies included once they get their fill of training data. But I was surprised to see Anthropic used as an example of something that hasn't enshittified, considering how in less than 6 months my Claude plan went from fantastic value to constant rate limiting.
  - OGEnthusiast 11mo ago
    As with everything Google: if it's free, you're the product.

by muffa 11mo ago

baq 11mo ago

Opus 4.5 is good. At least in Cursor it’s much better than Gemini 3 Pro for writing a lot of code autonomously: faster and calls tools better. That said Gemini is still very, very good at reviews, SQL, design and smaller (relatively) edits; but today it is not at all obvious that Google is going to win it all. They’re positioned very well, but execution needs to be top notch.

esperent 11mo ago
> much better than Gemini 3 Pro for writing a lot of code I know that people here are myopically focussed on code, but that's not what the majority of people use AI for. If Opus 4.5 is better than Gemini 3 for code, but the same or worse for most other uses (which seems to be the case according to benchmarks), that's great for us but terrible for Anthropic. Claude still can't even draw basic pictures, for example.
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aantix 11mo ago

Have you tried Opus 4.5? It's an absolute workhorse. It is so proactive in fixing blockers - 90% of the time for me, choosing the right path forward.

parapatelsukh 11mo ago
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ramoz 11mo ago

No company has come close to producing as close as of a reliable agentic coding solution as Anthropic has.

nikcub 11mo ago

There have been multiple model generations now where Anthropic have proven that they're ahead of everyone with developing LLMs for coding - if anything the gap has broadened with Opus 4.5.

wahnfrieden 11mo ago
Codex is and has been superior for some time (though it is slower)
- cebert 11mo ago
  What types of tasks do you find Codex superior?

N_Lens 11mo ago

Google are deep in the enshittification spiral and can't help themselves in kneecapping Gemini or imposing strict limits. Anthropic seem to atleast be a bit more customer centric.

ewoodrich 11mo ago
Anthropic's incessant cuts to CC rate limits/quota on the Claude Pro plan have nearly pushed me to cancel. If anything they're far ahead of Google on the enshittification schedule (who still give out API keys for free Gemini usage and a free tier on Gemini CLI, although CLI is still pretty shaky unfortunately but that's a different issue). It also doesn't help that CC will stop working literally in the middle of a task with zero heads up, or at best I get the 90% warning and then 30 seconds later have it stop working claiming I hit 100% after about two additional messages during the same task. I'm truly baffled by how they've managed to make the warnings as useless and aggravating as possible in CC and routinely shutdown while the repo is in a broken state, so I have to ask Codex to read the logs and piece things back together to continue working.
- giwook 11mo ago
  You make it sound like Google is giving out free usage out of the goodness of their hearts.
  - ewoodrich 11mo ago
    Am I? I'm just comparing the relative degree of enshittification, implicit in that is nothing will last forever, Gemini freebies included once they get their fill of training data. But I was surprised to see Anthropic used as an example of something that hasn't enshittified, considering how in less than 6 months my Claude plan went from fantastic value to constant rate limiting.
- OGEnthusiast 11mo ago
  As with everything Google: if it's free, you're the product.