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It doesn't, but people do it. Here's one in Utrecht https://urbanists.social/@Fuzzbizz/109608802470660144 https://urbanists.social/@Fuzzbizz/109608802470660144

jacquesm 11mo ago
That doesn't just seem selfish, it is selfish. And if it was a renovation crew or so carrying tools I would say they at least have some use for it (though a VW transporter would be just as effective, if not more so).
- ricardobeat 11mo ago
  A Mercedes Vito, despite being nearly 1m shorter and normal car width, has 4-5x the carry capacity and a 3x longer bed than the RAM. These cars are just for show, you can probably find a Kei truck with similar capacity.
  - lan321 11mo ago
    > These cars are just for show I love vans more than any vehicle, but they're garbage at offroad compared to trucks (even 4motion, etc can't compare). Most people don't use them for that, but in villa constructions sometimes you really want a pickup to get to the site. They're also better than vans in snow. Edge cases but they exist and they're not so obscure that I haven't experienced them.
    - ricardobeat 11mo ago
      Indeed, there are probably a few applications where it makes sense – though I suspect a classic, normal-sized Hilux/Frontier/Ranger would excel at that with none of the downsides. That said, 95% of construction work in europe does not involve any off-road driving at all, and definitely not around the Amsterdam/Utrecht area.
    - jacquesm 11mo ago
      If all off-road vehicles that had never gone off-road evaporated the world would instantly be a better place.
  - Aloisius 11mo ago
    A RAM 1500 can haul 1.3x the weight and tow 4.7x the weight of a Vito. And a RAM can go off-road. They are, ultimately, made for different workloads.
gorgabal 11mo ago
There is one driving around near where I live in Amsterdam as well. I am quite tall, even for Dutch standards, but the hood reaches my shoulder easily. It also drives around quite a busy neighbourhood. So I expect this specific car to kill someone within the next 5 years or so.
- walletdrainer 11mo ago
  There are much more dangerous vehicles around on European roads, such as most buses, trams and lorries.
  - Ekaros 11mo ago
    Those tend to have no bonnets. So there are some risks and accidents still, but in general they do have better visibility.
    - jacquesm 11mo ago
      And professional drivers.
      - mvdwoord 11mo ago
        They get paid for what they do, their "profession". Most of them are not particularly good ;)
        jacquesm 11mo ago
        That may be true, but on average I would expect them to be better drivers than the pick-up-in-the-inner-city crowd, whose choices are already off to a poor start before they turn the ignition key, after all, they picked the wrong vehicle for the surroundings.
        walletdrainer 11mo ago
        There are probably less than two hundred people like that in the entire EU. Kind of a pointlessly small demographic to focus on.

jacquesm 11mo ago

That doesn't just seem selfish, it is selfish. And if it was a renovation crew or so carrying tools I would say they at least have some use for it (though a VW transporter would be just as effective, if not more so).

ricardobeat 11mo ago
A Mercedes Vito, despite being nearly 1m shorter and normal car width, has 4-5x the carry capacity and a 3x longer bed than the RAM. These cars are just for show, you can probably find a Kei truck with similar capacity.
- lan321 11mo ago
  > These cars are just for show I love vans more than any vehicle, but they're garbage at offroad compared to trucks (even 4motion, etc can't compare). Most people don't use them for that, but in villa constructions sometimes you really want a pickup to get to the site. They're also better than vans in snow. Edge cases but they exist and they're not so obscure that I haven't experienced them.
  - ricardobeat 11mo ago
    Indeed, there are probably a few applications where it makes sense – though I suspect a classic, normal-sized Hilux/Frontier/Ranger would excel at that with none of the downsides. That said, 95% of construction work in europe does not involve any off-road driving at all, and definitely not around the Amsterdam/Utrecht area.
  - jacquesm 11mo ago
    If all off-road vehicles that had never gone off-road evaporated the world would instantly be a better place.
- Aloisius 11mo ago
  A RAM 1500 can haul 1.3x the weight and tow 4.7x the weight of a Vito. And a RAM can go off-road. They are, ultimately, made for different workloads.

gorgabal 11mo ago

There is one driving around near where I live in Amsterdam as well. I am quite tall, even for Dutch standards, but the hood reaches my shoulder easily. It also drives around quite a busy neighbourhood. So I expect this specific car to kill someone within the next 5 years or so.

walletdrainer 11mo ago
There are much more dangerous vehicles around on European roads, such as most buses, trams and lorries.
- Ekaros 11mo ago
  Those tend to have no bonnets. So there are some risks and accidents still, but in general they do have better visibility.
  - jacquesm 11mo ago
    And professional drivers.
    - mvdwoord 11mo ago
      They get paid for what they do, their "profession". Most of them are not particularly good ;)
      - jacquesm 11mo ago
        That may be true, but on average I would expect them to be better drivers than the pick-up-in-the-inner-city crowd, whose choices are already off to a poor start before they turn the ignition key, after all, they picked the wrong vehicle for the surroundings.
        walletdrainer 11mo ago
        There are probably less than two hundred people like that in the entire EU. Kind of a pointlessly small demographic to focus on.