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> While not even really news, it's also worth mentioning that the energy requirements are impossible to fulfill If you believe this, you must also believe that

by will4274 10mo ago

> While not even really news, it's also worth mentioning that the energy requirements are impossible to fulfill If you believe this, you must also believe that global warming is unstoppable. OpenAI's energy costs are large compared to the current electricity market, but not so large compared to the current energy market. Environmentalists usually suggest that electrification - converting non-electrical energy to electrical energy - and then making that electrical energy clean - is the solution to global warming. OpenAI's energy needs are something like 10% of the current worldwide electricity market but less than 1% of the current worldwide energy market.

rvnx 10mo ago
Imagine how big pile of trash as the current generation of graphics cards used for LLM training will get outdated. It will crash the hardware market (which is a good news for gamers)
- brookst 10mo ago
  A100’s are not suitable for gaming.
  - rvnx 10mo ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw699ZbUKqg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw699ZbUKqg Looks very playable to me. It's just an expensive card, but if the market is flooded with them, they can be used in gaming AND in local LLMs. So it can push the fall of server-side AI even further. These cards are 400 USD for reference, so if more and more are sold, we can imagine them getting down to 100 USD or so. (and then similar for A100, H100, etc) My main concern is the noise because I have seen datacenter hardware and it is crazy. Of course it's not ideal but there is something to do with it.
blablabla123 10mo ago
Google recently announced to double AI data center capacity every 6 month. While both unfortunately deal with exponential growth, we are talking about 1% growth CO2 which is bad enough vs 300% effectively per year according to Google
- infecto 10mo ago
  Constraints breed innovation. Humans will continue to innovate and demand for resources will grow. it is fairly well baked into most of civilization. Will that change in the future? Perhaps but it’s not changing now.

rvnx 10mo ago

Imagine how big pile of trash as the current generation of graphics cards used for LLM training will get outdated. It will crash the hardware market (which is a good news for gamers)

brookst 10mo ago
A100’s are not suitable for gaming.
- rvnx 10mo ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw699ZbUKqg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw699ZbUKqg Looks very playable to me. It's just an expensive card, but if the market is flooded with them, they can be used in gaming AND in local LLMs. So it can push the fall of server-side AI even further. These cards are 400 USD for reference, so if more and more are sold, we can imagine them getting down to 100 USD or so. (and then similar for A100, H100, etc) My main concern is the noise because I have seen datacenter hardware and it is crazy. Of course it's not ideal but there is something to do with it.

blablabla123 10mo ago

Google recently announced to double AI data center capacity every 6 month. While both unfortunately deal with exponential growth, we are talking about 1% growth CO2 which is bad enough vs 300% effectively per year according to Google

infecto 10mo ago
Constraints breed innovation. Humans will continue to innovate and demand for resources will grow. it is fairly well baked into most of civilization. Will that change in the future? Perhaps but it’s not changing now.