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I feel a lot less pride in my creative work knowing it can be done much too easily with modern AI. It makes me less eager to create which is quite unfortunate.

by jmathai 10mo ago

I feel a lot less pride in my creative work knowing it can be done much too easily with modern AI. It makes me less eager to create which is quite unfortunate. I haven’t felt to bad about my creative works being fed into training models. Taken by itself, my creations are minuscule. But it’s very apparent when I look at AI as a whole, having taken from everyone in aggregate. I feel that.

zmgsabst 10mo ago
Do you feel the same way about automatic looms displacing crafters, eg, the Luddites?
- philistine 10mo ago
  Someone needs to maintain and setup those efficient brand new looms. All I hear from AI is the promise that managers and owners will no longer need creative and managerial workers.
  - zmgsabst 10mo ago
    As many people as were employed as artisans? — are the new jobs on average as good as artisanship? Or so we displace 9/10 workers to worse or no jobs while 1/10 gets a valuable one? My understanding of AI is that it’s likely to represent the same 90:10 split — where some people operate those new AI systems, but most people are displaced to intellectual assembly lines. (Or unneeded, entirely.)
    - philistine 10mo ago
      > As many people as were employed as artisans? Counterintuitively, yes! Automation unlocked the birth of a worker class that could now afford the products made by automation, producing a virtuous spiral of growth. AI is breaking everybody's social compact. The workers' labour is used as training with nothing given back and the owners' consumers are unemployed giving you no market for your goods.
rustystump 10mo ago
Perhaps i am a bit odd but i dont understood this take. Why do you do what you do? Why do you create anything? Since before ai all my tiny little works have been public domain and it tickles me pink when i see something of mine out in the wild. Journey before destination. With that said though, the people who press the button and fashion themselves creatives piss me off. Heck anyone who has more than a passing interest in gen ai art disappoints me. After all, what is interesting about printing the Mona Lisa compared to creating your own shitty version by hand?
- vanschelven 10mo ago
  Journey and destination go hand in hand. Radio amateurs used to be a thing. Because playing with radios is fun, but also because this provided a way to hear things that otherwise could not be heard.
  - theshrike79 10mo ago
    They still are, it's just a full-on boys club where members are getting older and older. New people are finding the hobby due to all of the stuff going on in the world, an amateur radio license gives you the ability to communicate massive distances without any existing infrastructure - which is super cool. Digital mode radios are also bringing in people from programming backgrounds because they can move binary stuff over the air with software.
NitpickLawyer 10mo ago
> It makes me less eager to create which is quite unfortunate. It's been the exact opposite for me. Coding assistance is a great boon towards productivity simply because otherwise I wouldn't work on any of my old ideas stashed in numerous note taking apps. It's way easier today to go from 0 to something like an MVP, and see if there's something there. If there isn't, not much is lost. But without these tools it would be 0 all across the board.
- arjie 10mo ago
  I feel the same way. Things used to take so long just to do all the boilerplate. I would frequently get overwhelmed by the fact that I had to write each of the uninteresting parts to get to the interesting parts. I've recently started using a Chrome extension of my own making[0] that allows me to block and highlight users on Hacker News. I remember trying to do this once a long time ago and it was so much work. I had to learn about the Chrome manifest's possible permissions and I had to format my options page nicely with CSS and I had to learn how to make the extension connect to a web page. Same with these tools I've built for our family. My wife wanted to be able to give an AI some rough notes and have it polish things up using the notes she already had. She wanted to use ChatGPT. I know the theory about the thing: * ChatGPT has custom GPTs * Custom GPTs have Actions that call APIs * If you have an OpenAPI spec, custom GPTs can understand how to call them * If you have the HTTPS server, custom GPTs can access the endpoints Previously, I'd slog through each step one by one. This time, on a day when I was watching my infant daughter, I managed to finish the whole thing fully functioning during a short period that she slept! Eufy Baby iOS app up in the corner of the screen, claude code on the left, ChatGPT in Chrome on the right. Knocked it out in an hour and my wife uses it every day. Astounding tool. Then yesterday I wanted to print an alternative mount for our baby monitor so I can place it in a specific place. I couldn't find the camera mount STL files anywhere. 15 minutes for my wife to find my calipers, 5 minutes measuring, then untold GPU hours but zero of my time as codex built me a test mount[2] while verifying it against a mesh-contiguity script. And my wife is a graphic designer, so she iterated on our wedding clothes by using Dall-E to design the ideas she had, polished it up in Adobe CS, and then we got an embroiderer we know to put it on my sherwani[3]. At first I thought that perhaps it was just us engineers who get a lot of value out of these tools, but my wife uses them to design things to make on the Cricut, or to help with stuff to 3d-print on our Bambu, and both of us have used it to come up with modifications to recipes which have had surprisingly decent effect! Dude, my life is like 10x better, maybe 100x better. Everything I dreamed of is no longer gated by my lack of specific skill. I am only gated out by my taste. 0: https://overmod.org/ https://overmod.org/ 1: https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Blog/2025-10-17/Custom_GPTs https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Blog/2025-10-17/Custom_GPTs 2: https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Blog/2025-12-01/Grounding_Your_Agent https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Blog/2025-12-01/Grounding_Yo... 3: https://x.com/arjie/status/1855328068883353665?s=20 https://x.com/arjie/status/1855328068883353665?s=20
PixelForg 10mo ago
Perhaps I'm not the right person to reply to this, because I am just a beginner pixel artist, but I feel so much better when I finish my art projects when compared to the time I spent fiddling with stable diffusion. Maybe because I struggled so much to make it because of my mediocre skills? I got the same feeling as when you defeat a boss in some soulslike game, it's frustrating but you feel so good when you're done with it. AI art didn't feel special to me because you can generate as many as you want, I got bored very fast. I guess this is because I'm a process oriented person.
anal_reactor 10mo ago
I'm the opposite. I am more prideful and I appreciate art more exactly because I know that it could've been done by AI but someone somewhere chose not to.

by jmathai 10mo ago

zmgsabst 10mo ago

Do you feel the same way about automatic looms displacing crafters, eg, the Luddites?

philistine 10mo ago
Someone needs to maintain and setup those efficient brand new looms. All I hear from AI is the promise that managers and owners will no longer need creative and managerial workers.
- zmgsabst 10mo ago
  As many people as were employed as artisans? — are the new jobs on average as good as artisanship? Or so we displace 9/10 workers to worse or no jobs while 1/10 gets a valuable one? My understanding of AI is that it’s likely to represent the same 90:10 split — where some people operate those new AI systems, but most people are displaced to intellectual assembly lines. (Or unneeded, entirely.)
  - philistine 10mo ago
    > As many people as were employed as artisans? Counterintuitively, yes! Automation unlocked the birth of a worker class that could now afford the products made by automation, producing a virtuous spiral of growth. AI is breaking everybody's social compact. The workers' labour is used as training with nothing given back and the owners' consumers are unemployed giving you no market for your goods.

rustystump 10mo ago

Perhaps i am a bit odd but i dont understood this take. Why do you do what you do? Why do you create anything? Since before ai all my tiny little works have been public domain and it tickles me pink when i see something of mine out in the wild. Journey before destination. With that said though, the people who press the button and fashion themselves creatives piss me off. Heck anyone who has more than a passing interest in gen ai art disappoints me. After all, what is interesting about printing the Mona Lisa compared to creating your own shitty version by hand?

vanschelven 10mo ago
Journey and destination go hand in hand. Radio amateurs used to be a thing. Because playing with radios is fun, but also because this provided a way to hear things that otherwise could not be heard.
- theshrike79 10mo ago
  They still are, it's just a full-on boys club where members are getting older and older. New people are finding the hobby due to all of the stuff going on in the world, an amateur radio license gives you the ability to communicate massive distances without any existing infrastructure - which is super cool. Digital mode radios are also bringing in people from programming backgrounds because they can move binary stuff over the air with software.

NitpickLawyer 10mo ago

> It makes me less eager to create which is quite unfortunate. It's been the exact opposite for me. Coding assistance is a great boon towards productivity simply because otherwise I wouldn't work on any of my old ideas stashed in numerous note taking apps. It's way easier today to go from 0 to something like an MVP, and see if there's something there. If there isn't, not much is lost. But without these tools it would be 0 all across the board.

arjie 10mo ago
I feel the same way. Things used to take so long just to do all the boilerplate. I would frequently get overwhelmed by the fact that I had to write each of the uninteresting parts to get to the interesting parts. I've recently started using a Chrome extension of my own making[0] that allows me to block and highlight users on Hacker News. I remember trying to do this once a long time ago and it was so much work. I had to learn about the Chrome manifest's possible permissions and I had to format my options page nicely with CSS and I had to learn how to make the extension connect to a web page. Same with these tools I've built for our family. My wife wanted to be able to give an AI some rough notes and have it polish things up using the notes she already had. She wanted to use ChatGPT. I know the theory about the thing: * ChatGPT has custom GPTs * Custom GPTs have Actions that call APIs * If you have an OpenAPI spec, custom GPTs can understand how to call them * If you have the HTTPS server, custom GPTs can access the endpoints Previously, I'd slog through each step one by one. This time, on a day when I was watching my infant daughter, I managed to finish the whole thing fully functioning during a short period that she slept! Eufy Baby iOS app up in the corner of the screen, claude code on the left, ChatGPT in Chrome on the right. Knocked it out in an hour and my wife uses it every day. Astounding tool. Then yesterday I wanted to print an alternative mount for our baby monitor so I can place it in a specific place. I couldn't find the camera mount STL files anywhere. 15 minutes for my wife to find my calipers, 5 minutes measuring, then untold GPU hours but zero of my time as codex built me a test mount[2] while verifying it against a mesh-contiguity script. And my wife is a graphic designer, so she iterated on our wedding clothes by using Dall-E to design the ideas she had, polished it up in Adobe CS, and then we got an embroiderer we know to put it on my sherwani[3]. At first I thought that perhaps it was just us engineers who get a lot of value out of these tools, but my wife uses them to design things to make on the Cricut, or to help with stuff to 3d-print on our Bambu, and both of us have used it to come up with modifications to recipes which have had surprisingly decent effect! Dude, my life is like 10x better, maybe 100x better. Everything I dreamed of is no longer gated by my lack of specific skill. I am only gated out by my taste. 0: https://overmod.org/ https://overmod.org/ 1: https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Blog/2025-10-17/Custom_GPTs https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Blog/2025-10-17/Custom_GPTs 2: https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Blog/2025-12-01/Grounding_Your_Agent https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Blog/2025-12-01/Grounding_Yo... 3: https://x.com/arjie/status/1855328068883353665?s=20 https://x.com/arjie/status/1855328068883353665?s=20

PixelForg 10mo ago

Perhaps I'm not the right person to reply to this, because I am just a beginner pixel artist, but I feel so much better when I finish my art projects when compared to the time I spent fiddling with stable diffusion. Maybe because I struggled so much to make it because of my mediocre skills? I got the same feeling as when you defeat a boss in some soulslike game, it's frustrating but you feel so good when you're done with it. AI art didn't feel special to me because you can generate as many as you want, I got bored very fast. I guess this is because I'm a process oriented person.

anal_reactor 10mo ago

I'm the opposite. I am more prideful and I appreciate art more exactly because I know that it could've been done by AI but someone somewhere chose not to.