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IIRC, Tesla's safety record is about 30% worse than Waymo. The gap has been closing rapidly. It's not that long time ago Tesla made an order of magnitude more m

by vardump 10mo ago

IIRC, Tesla's safety record is about 30% worse than Waymo. The gap has been closing rapidly. It's not that long time ago Tesla made an order of magnitude more mistakes than Waymo.

AlotOfReading 10mo ago
That's with safety drivers, a small fleet, and literally only the most recent data (since it wasn't broken out before). My experience with AV deployments is that your incident rate is significantly different once you remove humans, and small fleet sizes/deployment areas hide a lot of long tail issues. Waymo is operating at a much larger scale across a huge range of conditions with hardware that's generations behind their latest and still performing better.
- vardump 10mo ago
  Ok, I guess we'll need to wait until Tesla removes the safety drivers to see the whole truth.
  - Zigurd 10mo ago
    No need to wait. It's got the same reliability as FSD. If people were sitting in the backseat while FSD is driving and taking a nap, I'd believe it's comparable to Waymo.
  - UltraSane 10mo ago
    You are going to be waiting a while.
tziki 10mo ago
If that was true they would've already released a full, no safety driver service. They have not.
UltraSane 10mo ago
That is WITH humans ready to take over! So it is really terrible.