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NME at all - 5.1 codex has been the best by far.

manmal 10mo ago
How can you stand the excruciating slowness? Claude Code is running circles around codex. The most mundane tasks make it think for a minute before doing anything.
- wahnfrieden 10mo ago
  By learning to parallelize my work. This also solved my problem with slow Xcode builds.
  - manmal 10mo ago
    Well you can’t edit files while Xcode is building or the compiler will throw up, so I‘m wondering what you mean here. You can’t even run swift test in 2 agents at the same time, because swift serializes access for some reason. Whenever I have more than 1 agent run Swift tests in a loop to fix things, and another one to build something, the latter will disturb the former and I need to cancel. And then there’s a lot of work that can’t be parallelized, like complex git rebases - well you can do other things in a worktree, but good luck merging that after you‘ve changed everything in the repo. Codex is really really bad at git.
    - spongebobstoes 10mo ago
      I use the web ui, easy to parallelize stuff to 90% done. manually finish the last 10% and a quick test
      - wahnfrieden 10mo ago
        For Xcode projects?
    - wahnfrieden 10mo ago
      Yes these are horrible pain points. I can only hope Apple improves this stuff if it's true that they're adding MCP support throughout the OS which should require better multi-agent handling You can use worktrees to have multiple copies building or testing at once I'm a solo dev so I rarely use some git features like rebase. I work out of trunk only without branches (if I need a branch, I use a feature flag). So I can't help with that What I did is build an Xcode MCP server that controls Xcode via AppleScript and the simulator via accessibility & idb. For running, it gives locks to the agent that the agent releases once it's done via another command (or by pattern matching on logs output or scripting via JS criteria for ending the lock "atomically" without requiring a follow-up command, for more typical use). For testing, it serializes the requests into a queue and blocks the MCP response. This works well for me because I care more about autonomous parallelization than I do eliminating waiting states, as long as I myself am not ever waiting. (This is all very interesting to me as a former DevOps/Continuous Deployment specialist - dramatically different practices around optimizing delivery these days...) Once I get this tool working better I will productize it. It runs fully inside the macOS sandbox so I will deploy it to the Mac App Store and have an iOS companion for monitoring & managing it that syncs via iCloud and TailScale (no server on my end, more privacy friendly). If this sounds useful to you please let me know! In addition to this, I also just work on ~3 projects at the same time and rotate through them by having about 20 iTerm2 tabs open where I use the titles of each tab (cmd-i to update) as the task title for my sake. I've also started building more with SwiftWASM (with SQLite WASM, and I am working on porting SQLiteData to WASM too so I can have a unified data layer that has iCloud sync on Apple platforms) and web deployment for some of my apps features so that I can iterate more quickly and reuse the work in the apps.
      - alexfringes 10mo ago
        How can I get in touch?
        wahnfrieden 10mo ago
        hn () manabi.io
      - manmal 10mo ago
- aschobel 10mo ago
  I use it on medium reasoning and it's decently quick. I only switch to gpt-5.1-codex-max xhigh for the most annoying problems.
- findjashua 10mo ago
  i workshop a detailed outline w it first, and once i'm happy w the plan/outline, i let it run while i go do something else
nimchimpsky 10mo ago
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pshirshov 10mo ago
By my tests (https://github.com/7mind/jopa https://github.com/7mind/jopa) Gemini 3 is somewhat better than Claude with Opus 4.5. Both obliterate Codex with 5.1
- Incipient 10mo ago
  What's - roughly - your monthly spend when using ppt models? I only use fixed priced copilot, and my napkin maths says I'd be spending something crazy like $200/mo if I went ppt on the more expensive models.
  - pshirshov 10mo ago
    Something around 500 euros.
  - vidarh 10mo ago
    They have subscriptions too (at least Claude and ChatGPT/Codex; I don't use Gemini much). It's far cheaper to use the subscriptions first and then switch to paying per token beyond that.
- viking123 10mo ago
  Codex is super cheap though even with the cheapest GPT subscription you get lots of tokens. I use 4.5 opus at work and codex at home tbh the differences are not that big if you know what you are doing.
andybak 10mo ago
NME = "not my experience" I presume. JFC TLA OD...

manmal 10mo ago

How can you stand the excruciating slowness? Claude Code is running circles around codex. The most mundane tasks make it think for a minute before doing anything.

wahnfrieden 10mo ago
By learning to parallelize my work. This also solved my problem with slow Xcode builds.
- manmal 10mo ago
  Well you can’t edit files while Xcode is building or the compiler will throw up, so I‘m wondering what you mean here. You can’t even run swift test in 2 agents at the same time, because swift serializes access for some reason. Whenever I have more than 1 agent run Swift tests in a loop to fix things, and another one to build something, the latter will disturb the former and I need to cancel. And then there’s a lot of work that can’t be parallelized, like complex git rebases - well you can do other things in a worktree, but good luck merging that after you‘ve changed everything in the repo. Codex is really really bad at git.
  - spongebobstoes 10mo ago
    I use the web ui, easy to parallelize stuff to 90% done. manually finish the last 10% and a quick test
    - wahnfrieden 10mo ago
      For Xcode projects?
  - wahnfrieden 10mo ago
    Yes these are horrible pain points. I can only hope Apple improves this stuff if it's true that they're adding MCP support throughout the OS which should require better multi-agent handling You can use worktrees to have multiple copies building or testing at once I'm a solo dev so I rarely use some git features like rebase. I work out of trunk only without branches (if I need a branch, I use a feature flag). So I can't help with that What I did is build an Xcode MCP server that controls Xcode via AppleScript and the simulator via accessibility & idb. For running, it gives locks to the agent that the agent releases once it's done via another command (or by pattern matching on logs output or scripting via JS criteria for ending the lock "atomically" without requiring a follow-up command, for more typical use). For testing, it serializes the requests into a queue and blocks the MCP response. This works well for me because I care more about autonomous parallelization than I do eliminating waiting states, as long as I myself am not ever waiting. (This is all very interesting to me as a former DevOps/Continuous Deployment specialist - dramatically different practices around optimizing delivery these days...) Once I get this tool working better I will productize it. It runs fully inside the macOS sandbox so I will deploy it to the Mac App Store and have an iOS companion for monitoring & managing it that syncs via iCloud and TailScale (no server on my end, more privacy friendly). If this sounds useful to you please let me know! In addition to this, I also just work on ~3 projects at the same time and rotate through them by having about 20 iTerm2 tabs open where I use the titles of each tab (cmd-i to update) as the task title for my sake. I've also started building more with SwiftWASM (with SQLite WASM, and I am working on porting SQLiteData to WASM too so I can have a unified data layer that has iCloud sync on Apple platforms) and web deployment for some of my apps features so that I can iterate more quickly and reuse the work in the apps.
    - alexfringes 10mo ago
      How can I get in touch?
      - wahnfrieden 10mo ago
        hn () manabi.io
    - manmal 10mo ago
aschobel 10mo ago
I use it on medium reasoning and it's decently quick. I only switch to gpt-5.1-codex-max xhigh for the most annoying problems.
findjashua 10mo ago
i workshop a detailed outline w it first, and once i'm happy w the plan/outline, i let it run while i go do something else

nimchimpsky 10mo ago

[dead]

pshirshov 10mo ago

By my tests (https://github.com/7mind/jopa https://github.com/7mind/jopa) Gemini 3 is somewhat better than Claude with Opus 4.5. Both obliterate Codex with 5.1

Incipient 10mo ago
What's - roughly - your monthly spend when using ppt models? I only use fixed priced copilot, and my napkin maths says I'd be spending something crazy like $200/mo if I went ppt on the more expensive models.
- pshirshov 10mo ago
  Something around 500 euros.
- vidarh 10mo ago
  They have subscriptions too (at least Claude and ChatGPT/Codex; I don't use Gemini much). It's far cheaper to use the subscriptions first and then switch to paying per token beyond that.
viking123 10mo ago
Codex is super cheap though even with the cheapest GPT subscription you get lots of tokens. I use 4.5 opus at work and codex at home tbh the differences are not that big if you know what you are doing.

andybak 10mo ago

NME = "not my experience" I presume. JFC TLA OD...