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A lot of cutting-edge music doesn't come from the field of music. John Cage's work was influenced by literature. Brian Eno created ambient music by listening to
by unalone 18y ago
A lot of cutting-edge music doesn't come from the field of music. John Cage's work was influenced by literature. Brian Eno created ambient music by listening to music in places he went. An AI couldn't discover breaking-ground things like that. Not through synthesis.
The idea is that truly great music isn't music that takes an existing style and moves it. Great music is the music that creates something that isn't already there.
- gravitycop 18y agoGreat music is the music that creates something that isn't already there. Why would a human, but not an AI, be able to do that? John Cage's work was influenced by literature. AI's cannot read literature?
- unalone 18y agoWhy would a human, but not an AI, be able to do that? Because AI operates according to structures that have been designed by human hands. The human mind is incomprehensibly more complex than any AI. So you could make AI that does innovate, but its innovations would still be far more predictable and routine than any that a human mind could come up with. AI's cannot read literature? John Cage would read Finnegans Wake, draw lines up and down pages, and derive poems from words formed by what his line would hit. A computer would never think to do that on its own. There's a fine line between genius and insanity, it is said - and computers can't be insane.
- bd 18y agoBecause AI operates according to structures that have been designed by human hands. The human mind is incomprehensibly more complex than any AI. So you could make AI that does innovate, but its innovations would still be far more predictable and routine than any that a human mind could come up with. Not necessarily. Using evolutionary approach, AI can come up with innovations on par (and possibly even beyond) to what humans could do: http://www.genetic-programming.com/humancompetitive.html http://www.genetic-programming.com/humancompetitive.html
- likpok 18y agoThe biggest issue with this contention is that no one knows how far AI can go. Furthermore, I posit that there are people who will never accept what AI does, viewing it as always lesser to human development. Someone (I don't remember who) quipped, "What is AI? Whatever a computer can't do".
- gravitycop 18y ago"What is AI? Whatever a computer can't do". One implication seems to be that the human brain is itself not a computer.
- unalone 18y agoIt's not, in the sense that you're talking about. We don't operate through a vast system of yesses and nos. We're not just a huge binary cloud, in other words. And nobody's entirely certain just how we work. Comparing us to computers is really ignoring most of the limitations of computers, and invites far to simplistic - and inaccurate - a comparison.
- gravitycop 18y ago[The human brain is not a computer] in the sense that you're talking about. Is the human brain a machine? 71 hits for: http://blogsearch.google.com?q=%22brain+is+a+machine%22 http://blogsearch.google.com?q=%22brain+is+a+machine%22 8,400 hits for: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22brain+is+a+machine%22 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22brain+is+a+machine%22
- unalone 18y agoOn the same note, 68 results for "government caused 9/11". People blogging doesn't make something a reality.
- gravitycop 18y ago