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The CCP controlling the government doesn't mean they micromanage everything. Some Chinese AI companies release the weights of even their best models (DeepSeek,
by yorwba 11mo ago
The CCP controlling the government doesn't mean they micromanage everything. Some Chinese AI companies release the weights of even their best models (DeepSeek, Moonshot AI), others release weights for small models, but not the largest ones (Alibaba, Baidu), some keep almost everything closed (Bytedance and iFlytek, I think).
There is no CCP master plan for open models, any more than there is a Western master plan for ignoring Chinese models only available as an API.
- baq 11mo agoNever suggested anything of the sort, involvement doesn’t mean direct control, it might be a passive ‘let us know if there’s progress’ issued privately, it might also be a passive ‘we want to be #1 in AI in 2030’ announced publicly, neither requires any micromanagement whatsoever: CCP’s expectation is companies figuring out how to align to party directives themselves… or face consequences.
- shroobani 11mo agoUnlike the US, where there are no consequences for not aligning with the ruling party's directives.
- mlinhares 11mo agoThe US couldn't make China follow it, so it is now following China's lead LOL.
- baq 11mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism (not that I disagree)
- throw10920 11mo agoThis isn't even whataboutism, because the comparison is just insane. The difference between the CCP, where "private" companies must actively pursue the party's strategic interests or cease to exist (and their executives/employees can be killed), and the US, where neither of those things happen and the worst penalty for a company not following the government's direction (while continuing to follow the law, which should be an obvious caveat) is the occasional fine for not complying with regulation or losing preference for government contracts, is categorical. Only those who are either totally ignorant or seeking to spread propaganda would even compare the two.
- antonvs 11mo agoIn other words, your original comment was pointless speculation with no real basis.
- jimbo808 11mo agoThey don't have to micromanage companies. A company's activities must align with the goals of the CCP, or it will not continue to exist. This produces companies that will micromanage themselves in accordance with the CCP's strategic vision.
- antonvs 11mo agoThat seems irrelevant in this case, given that China has companies all over the spectrum in terms of the degree of openness of their AI products.