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Sometimes both sides do suck.

lm28469 11mo ago
One side is metastasising in the US government right now, the other has been long dead. "it's the same because they're both bad" ok...
- philipallstar 11mo ago
  It's not been long dead. There's a communist who's just been elected to Mayer of New York.
  - dpark 11mo ago
    He’s a socialist. Painting all socialism as “evil communism” is reductive and dishonest.
    - lowkey_ 11mo ago
      Mamdani has said that (1) they'll open government-run stores, and (2) the government will seize buildings from bad landlords. My family is from a communist country and I can assure you, that is communistic.
      - dpark 11mo ago
        I would agree that government run stores falls into the communist playbook. Despite the communism boogie man, though, I don’t think supporting a couple of communist policies strictly makes a person a communist. Trump sent a bunch of government checks to people during Covid and no one called him communist for this.
        philipallstar 11mo ago
        > Trump sent a bunch of government checks to people during Covid and no one called him communist for this. Giving people money on a temporary basis is the opposite of the government opportunistically taking over areas of the market.
      - ceejayoz 11mo ago
        > Mamdani has said that (1) they'll open government-run stores We've had those for ages. Called commisaries. Here's a picture: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_020813-N-3642E-503_Navy_customers_look_for_ripe_apples_at_the_commissary_located_at_Naval_Station_Norfolk.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_020813-N-364... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Commissary_Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Commissary_Agency > the government will seize buildings from bad landlords. We've had eminent domain since the founding of the nation.
      - lm28469 11mo ago
        Any time someone mention "fascism" or "communism" you can be sure people instantly lose 50 IQ point and come up with the most convoluted definitions of these terms The US army have their own government owned supermarkets. And there are plenty of US states and other countries with public stores which are definitely not communist. Is the US army communist ? In Berlin we voted to seize housing from megacorp landlords profiteering from housing, I don't think Berlin is communist either. https://qz.com/2065655/berliners-voted-to-seize-housing-from-big-corporate-landlords https://qz.com/2065655/berliners-voted-to-seize-housing-from...
        philipallstar 11mo ago
        The US army isn't communist by that definition, no. Any more than any employer who provides food to their employees isn't communist. In Berlin you didn't realise that population increase is what enriches landlords and screws regular people, but you still vote for a lot of immigration. Population increase in a finite, well-settled country is what gives rise to landlords.
  - lm28469 11mo ago
    So is he communist or islamist in the end ? I keep hearing both but they're mutually exclusive

One side is metastasising in the US government right now, the other has been long dead. "it's the same because they're both bad" ok...

philipallstar 11mo ago
It's not been long dead. There's a communist who's just been elected to Mayer of New York.
- dpark 11mo ago
  He’s a socialist. Painting all socialism as “evil communism” is reductive and dishonest.
  - lowkey_ 11mo ago
    Mamdani has said that (1) they'll open government-run stores, and (2) the government will seize buildings from bad landlords. My family is from a communist country and I can assure you, that is communistic.
    - dpark 11mo ago
      I would agree that government run stores falls into the communist playbook. Despite the communism boogie man, though, I don’t think supporting a couple of communist policies strictly makes a person a communist. Trump sent a bunch of government checks to people during Covid and no one called him communist for this.
      - philipallstar 11mo ago
        > Trump sent a bunch of government checks to people during Covid and no one called him communist for this. Giving people money on a temporary basis is the opposite of the government opportunistically taking over areas of the market.
    - ceejayoz 11mo ago
      > Mamdani has said that (1) they'll open government-run stores We've had those for ages. Called commisaries. Here's a picture: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_020813-N-3642E-503_Navy_customers_look_for_ripe_apples_at_the_commissary_located_at_Naval_Station_Norfolk.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_020813-N-364... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Commissary_Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Commissary_Agency > the government will seize buildings from bad landlords. We've had eminent domain since the founding of the nation.
    - lm28469 11mo ago
      Any time someone mention "fascism" or "communism" you can be sure people instantly lose 50 IQ point and come up with the most convoluted definitions of these terms The US army have their own government owned supermarkets. And there are plenty of US states and other countries with public stores which are definitely not communist. Is the US army communist ? In Berlin we voted to seize housing from megacorp landlords profiteering from housing, I don't think Berlin is communist either. https://qz.com/2065655/berliners-voted-to-seize-housing-from-big-corporate-landlords https://qz.com/2065655/berliners-voted-to-seize-housing-from...
      - philipallstar 11mo ago
        The US army isn't communist by that definition, no. Any more than any employer who provides food to their employees isn't communist. In Berlin you didn't realise that population increase is what enriches landlords and screws regular people, but you still vote for a lot of immigration. Population increase in a finite, well-settled country is what gives rise to landlords.
- lm28469 11mo ago
  So is he communist or islamist in the end ? I keep hearing both but they're mutually exclusive