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ha what an incredible consumer-friendly outcome! Hopefully competition keeps the focus on improving models and prevents irritating kinds of monetization

another_twist 10mo ago
If there's no monetization, the industry will just collapse. Not a good thing to aspire to. I hope they make money whilst doing these improvements.
- thrance 10mo ago
  If there's no monetization, the industry will just collapse, except for Google, which is probably what they want.
  - AlexCoventry 10mo ago
    The Chinese AI industry won't collapse, because it's a strategic priority for the PRC, and heavily subsidized.
    - verdverm 10mo ago
      up to the point the Ai industry and people's access to it threatens The Party
- Ericson2314 10mo ago
  If people pay for inference, that's revenue. Ads and stuff is plan B for inference being too cheap, or the value being too low.
- gaigalas 10mo ago
  > the industry will just collapse Wait, so all of that talk of ushering an era of innovation and new opportunities was just a lie, and the thing needs dinosaur-era stuff like ads and online shopping to survive? Seems disingenuous.
  - another_twist 10mo ago
    Ads have a very high profit margin. Ultimately we all get to cool shit because some consumer somehwere is buying something. Depending on whether you work in B2B or consumer software you are just a step closer or farther from the consumer. But ultimately its people who dont write code who decide the fate of the software industry.
    - gaigalas 10mo ago
      > Ads have a very high profit margin. I don't get it. "AI is the new electricity", right? Disruptive. A new era. The lightbulb company should be so disruptive that it completely occludes the huge profits of the old and obsolete candle business. If your electricity company starts selling candles, something is wrong at a very deep conceptual level.
apparent 10mo ago
Just like uber rides funded by VC cash was great...until the VC money ran out and prices jumped to fill the gap.
- raducu 10mo ago
  the prices jumped and uber is now profitable, I think that's the future for AI as well -- some will fail, but eventually some will be profitable.
crazygringo 10mo ago
If they don't start on ads and shopping, they're going to go out of business. I'd rather a product that exists with ads, over one that's disappeared. The fact is, personal subscriptions don't cover the bills if you're going to keep a free tier. Ads do. I don't like it any more than you do, but I'm a realist about it.

another_twist 10mo ago

If there's no monetization, the industry will just collapse. Not a good thing to aspire to. I hope they make money whilst doing these improvements.

thrance 10mo ago
If there's no monetization, the industry will just collapse, except for Google, which is probably what they want.
- AlexCoventry 10mo ago
  The Chinese AI industry won't collapse, because it's a strategic priority for the PRC, and heavily subsidized.
  - verdverm 10mo ago
    up to the point the Ai industry and people's access to it threatens The Party
Ericson2314 10mo ago
If people pay for inference, that's revenue. Ads and stuff is plan B for inference being too cheap, or the value being too low.
gaigalas 10mo ago
> the industry will just collapse Wait, so all of that talk of ushering an era of innovation and new opportunities was just a lie, and the thing needs dinosaur-era stuff like ads and online shopping to survive? Seems disingenuous.
- another_twist 10mo ago
  Ads have a very high profit margin. Ultimately we all get to cool shit because some consumer somehwere is buying something. Depending on whether you work in B2B or consumer software you are just a step closer or farther from the consumer. But ultimately its people who dont write code who decide the fate of the software industry.
  - gaigalas 10mo ago
    > Ads have a very high profit margin. I don't get it. "AI is the new electricity", right? Disruptive. A new era. The lightbulb company should be so disruptive that it completely occludes the huge profits of the old and obsolete candle business. If your electricity company starts selling candles, something is wrong at a very deep conceptual level.

apparent 10mo ago

Just like uber rides funded by VC cash was great...until the VC money ran out and prices jumped to fill the gap.

raducu 10mo ago
the prices jumped and uber is now profitable, I think that's the future for AI as well -- some will fail, but eventually some will be profitable.

crazygringo 10mo ago

If they don't start on ads and shopping, they're going to go out of business. I'd rather a product that exists with ads, over one that's disappeared. The fact is, personal subscriptions don't cover the bills if you're going to keep a free tier. Ads do. I don't like it any more than you do, but I'm a realist about it.