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What you're feeling is the reason even people like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs needed cofounders. I'd recommend finding one. It will also greatly improve your ch

by pg 18y ago

What you're feeling is the reason even people like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs needed cofounders. I'd recommend finding one. It will also greatly improve your chances of succeeding.

cperciva 18y ago
I'd add a slight caveat to that. This is why it's a good idea to either have a cofounder or have a guru like pg tell you that you won't succeed with a cofounder. For me, the desire to prove pg wrong supplied all the motivation which is normally supplied by a cofounder. :-)
- asdflkj 18y ago
  How do you single-handedly prove wrong a statement like "it helps a lot to have a cofounder"?
  - cperciva 18y ago
    I'm not trying to prove that it doesn't help to have a cofounder. In fact, I'd agree that in most cases having a cofounder helps. It's more that I'd like to demonstrate that there are exceptions -- and so far I can't think of a single instance where having a cofounder would have helped me.
    - scotth 18y ago
      My co-founder is very useful to me, and our business. He has a completely different but complementary skill set and viewpoint. Furthermore, we push each other when things don't look so hot, business-wise. I wouldn't know what to do _without_ a co-founder.
    - staunch 18y ago
      One of the most valuable things a cofounder does is shine light on your blind spots. By definition you can't see these problems, but someone else who's intimately involved can.
      - mhartl 18y ago
        A common argument is that it's valuable to have a partner as a sounding board and as a source of moral support. These roles are vital, but they don't necessarily have to be filled by founders. Einstein needed the help of his friend Michele Besso to develop special relativity, but Besso wasn't a coauthor on Zur Elektrodynamik bewegter Körper. I don't see two as a natural lower bound on the number of founders. As the productivity of individual programmers continues to rise, I expect to see an increasing number of single-founder startups succeed.
        eterno 18y ago
        I have also come to the same conclusion independently. You need a sounding board and a source of moral support absolutely. This is best done by a co-founder. However, it CAN also be done by someone who is not a co-founder and more of an advisor. Also, you do NOT absolutely need co-founders with complimentary skills. That is a myth. Larry and Segie did not have complimentary skills. Bill Gates and Paul Allen did NOT have ALL the skills required to build their business. They had or developed (read learned) a lot of skills on the way, for which they could not hire immidiately - which is the only thing that is required of a founding team.
  - hs 18y ago
    like showing a case where having a cofounder gives zero or even negative progress? there should be plenty
sachinag 18y ago
Please, yes, for the love of all that is holy, get a co-founder. If you can convince someone else to go in with you, then you've done a good enough sales job that you'll be able to get customers.
- axod 18y ago
  "If you can convince someone else to go in with you, then you've done a good enough sales job that you'll be able to get customers." Sorry, but that's terrible advice IMHO. You could convince any number of people to be co-founders... That doesn't mean in any way that they would be an asset, or that your startup has any legs. Convincing 1 person isn't that hard a job (For some values of person). I think you should amend that to something like "If you can convince someone to quit their job, and go in with you, who you also think would be an asset, and be able to work with..."
raffi 18y ago
I wouldn't let the lack of a cofounder stop you from trying. If you start on something you can handle on your own, you'll: 1. better understand your strengths (i.e. what you have to offer) 2. better understand your weaknesses (i.e. what you'd like in a cofounder) 3. know how to get started. (huge!) All of these things will make you a more valuable partner in the future. While a cofounder could bring value, I wouldn't consider the lack of cofounder a deal breaker for moving forward.
- vlad 18y ago
  Great post.
axod 18y ago
Do you recommend finding one from anywhere though? Or checking with the people you already know that you think would be a good fit. I'd agree with the latter, but I think finding a co-founder from scratch is a pretty massive task. Like harder than being a single founder and succeeding (If you're determined enough). Seems like the best co-founders are people you went to school/college with, or worked with, or worked together on open source - all things that take time. Having no co-founder is better than settling for a less than great co-founder surely?
- pg 18y ago
  Yes, I'd certainly recommend a cofounder (a) you already know and (b) who's technically very good. It's an interesting question how bad a cofounder would have to be before no cofounder would be better. I think as long as you got along well with someone and they encouraged you to work, they could be pretty middling technically and still be a net win. Merely having someone enthusiastic to bounce ideas off could easily make you 2x more productive than you might be alone.
  - axod 18y ago
    Sure, I think family can provide some of that motivation/sounding board (My wife is bored to death of me talking to her about Mibbit, but she listens, nods, makes comments :) Sometimes it seems helpful just to say ideas out loud). I think though that the 'encouraged you to work' can quickly be fulfilled by your users once things take off. There's nothing more motivating than users emailing with feature requests, or telling you something is broken. For me, the biggest irritation not having a co-founder has been the ups and downs. When I think "this thing sucks! It's stupid it's all wrong it's broken rubbish I should stop it now", there's no other co-founders to balance that out. I'd agree with the 2x more productive being possible. Also very cool if you start to get competitive with each other - "Bet I can get this new feature done by end of the day" etc
    - suhail 18y ago
      I know what you mean. I do the same thing with my girlfriend, sometimes you need to just tell someone so you don't blab to the wrong people. Co-founders are nice for a good checks and balances type system, to see if you're new ideas are on some sort of right path.
lionhearted 18y ago
I think you've got two options: Have a cofounder, or have a counsel. A counsel would be people you greatly admire that are in your corner during the really ugly, dismal, brutal alone knock-down kicked-in-the-teeth "where the hell do I go from here?" moments. And there'll be plenty of them. I know not everyone is a Tim Ferriss fan here, but this particular blog post is brilliant: http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/10/03/harnessing-entrepreneurial-manic-depression-making-the-rollercoaster-work-for-you/ http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/10/03/harnessing-e... Having a counsel of people you can go to is a viable option instead of a cofounder in my opinion, but it's hard to put said counsel together without blazing away in business for a few years.
- cperciva 18y ago
  s/counsel/council/. A council is a group of people from whom you seek counsel.
eterno 18y ago
Totally agree that having a co-founder helps, but totally DISAGREE that either that is the solution to your cold-feet, or that is absolute required to do a startup. Also, I think there is little reason to believe that either bill gates or steve jobs got over their cold feet because of co-founders. Not to say that having co-founders might be a big reason behind their massive success. but at the same time they might have had smaller successes without co-founders. So, to be more specific, do absolutely spend time in finding a co-founder or advisors that you can confide too, but again get over the cold-feet before that. Getting over the cold-feet is a two step process: Do it directly and quickly. 1. Cross over to startup land by quiting your job already. 2. Burn the bridge by telling everyone, your friends, family, (now) old colleagues that you are doing a startup. Always remember, the only way you will get around to fighting the devil is when the deep sea is behind you.

by pg 18y ago

What you're feeling is the reason even people like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs needed cofounders. I'd recommend finding one. It will also greatly improve your chances of succeeding.

cperciva 18y ago

I'd add a slight caveat to that. This is why it's a good idea to either have a cofounder or have a guru like pg tell you that you won't succeed with a cofounder. For me, the desire to prove pg wrong supplied all the motivation which is normally supplied by a cofounder. :-)

asdflkj 18y ago
How do you single-handedly prove wrong a statement like "it helps a lot to have a cofounder"?
- cperciva 18y ago
  I'm not trying to prove that it doesn't help to have a cofounder. In fact, I'd agree that in most cases having a cofounder helps. It's more that I'd like to demonstrate that there are exceptions -- and so far I can't think of a single instance where having a cofounder would have helped me.
  - scotth 18y ago
    My co-founder is very useful to me, and our business. He has a completely different but complementary skill set and viewpoint. Furthermore, we push each other when things don't look so hot, business-wise. I wouldn't know what to do _without_ a co-founder.
  - staunch 18y ago
    One of the most valuable things a cofounder does is shine light on your blind spots. By definition you can't see these problems, but someone else who's intimately involved can.
    - mhartl 18y ago
      A common argument is that it's valuable to have a partner as a sounding board and as a source of moral support. These roles are vital, but they don't necessarily have to be filled by founders. Einstein needed the help of his friend Michele Besso to develop special relativity, but Besso wasn't a coauthor on Zur Elektrodynamik bewegter Körper. I don't see two as a natural lower bound on the number of founders. As the productivity of individual programmers continues to rise, I expect to see an increasing number of single-founder startups succeed.
      - eterno 18y ago
        I have also come to the same conclusion independently. You need a sounding board and a source of moral support absolutely. This is best done by a co-founder. However, it CAN also be done by someone who is not a co-founder and more of an advisor. Also, you do NOT absolutely need co-founders with complimentary skills. That is a myth. Larry and Segie did not have complimentary skills. Bill Gates and Paul Allen did NOT have ALL the skills required to build their business. They had or developed (read learned) a lot of skills on the way, for which they could not hire immidiately - which is the only thing that is required of a founding team.
- hs 18y ago
  like showing a case where having a cofounder gives zero or even negative progress? there should be plenty

sachinag 18y ago

Please, yes, for the love of all that is holy, get a co-founder. If you can convince someone else to go in with you, then you've done a good enough sales job that you'll be able to get customers.

axod 18y ago
"If you can convince someone else to go in with you, then you've done a good enough sales job that you'll be able to get customers." Sorry, but that's terrible advice IMHO. You could convince any number of people to be co-founders... That doesn't mean in any way that they would be an asset, or that your startup has any legs. Convincing 1 person isn't that hard a job (For some values of person). I think you should amend that to something like "If you can convince someone to quit their job, and go in with you, who you also think would be an asset, and be able to work with..."

raffi 18y ago

I wouldn't let the lack of a cofounder stop you from trying. If you start on something you can handle on your own, you'll: 1. better understand your strengths (i.e. what you have to offer) 2. better understand your weaknesses (i.e. what you'd like in a cofounder) 3. know how to get started. (huge!) All of these things will make you a more valuable partner in the future. While a cofounder could bring value, I wouldn't consider the lack of cofounder a deal breaker for moving forward.

vlad 18y ago
Great post.

axod 18y ago

Do you recommend finding one from anywhere though? Or checking with the people you already know that you think would be a good fit. I'd agree with the latter, but I think finding a co-founder from scratch is a pretty massive task. Like harder than being a single founder and succeeding (If you're determined enough). Seems like the best co-founders are people you went to school/college with, or worked with, or worked together on open source - all things that take time. Having no co-founder is better than settling for a less than great co-founder surely?

pg 18y ago
Yes, I'd certainly recommend a cofounder (a) you already know and (b) who's technically very good. It's an interesting question how bad a cofounder would have to be before no cofounder would be better. I think as long as you got along well with someone and they encouraged you to work, they could be pretty middling technically and still be a net win. Merely having someone enthusiastic to bounce ideas off could easily make you 2x more productive than you might be alone.
- axod 18y ago
  Sure, I think family can provide some of that motivation/sounding board (My wife is bored to death of me talking to her about Mibbit, but she listens, nods, makes comments :) Sometimes it seems helpful just to say ideas out loud). I think though that the 'encouraged you to work' can quickly be fulfilled by your users once things take off. There's nothing more motivating than users emailing with feature requests, or telling you something is broken. For me, the biggest irritation not having a co-founder has been the ups and downs. When I think "this thing sucks! It's stupid it's all wrong it's broken rubbish I should stop it now", there's no other co-founders to balance that out. I'd agree with the 2x more productive being possible. Also very cool if you start to get competitive with each other - "Bet I can get this new feature done by end of the day" etc
  - suhail 18y ago
    I know what you mean. I do the same thing with my girlfriend, sometimes you need to just tell someone so you don't blab to the wrong people. Co-founders are nice for a good checks and balances type system, to see if you're new ideas are on some sort of right path.

lionhearted 18y ago

I think you've got two options: Have a cofounder, or have a counsel. A counsel would be people you greatly admire that are in your corner during the really ugly, dismal, brutal alone knock-down kicked-in-the-teeth "where the hell do I go from here?" moments. And there'll be plenty of them. I know not everyone is a Tim Ferriss fan here, but this particular blog post is brilliant: http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/10/03/harnessing-entrepreneurial-manic-depression-making-the-rollercoaster-work-for-you/ http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/10/03/harnessing-e... Having a counsel of people you can go to is a viable option instead of a cofounder in my opinion, but it's hard to put said counsel together without blazing away in business for a few years.

cperciva 18y ago
s/counsel/council/. A council is a group of people from whom you seek counsel.

eterno 18y ago

Totally agree that having a co-founder helps, but totally DISAGREE that either that is the solution to your cold-feet, or that is absolute required to do a startup. Also, I think there is little reason to believe that either bill gates or steve jobs got over their cold feet because of co-founders. Not to say that having co-founders might be a big reason behind their massive success. but at the same time they might have had smaller successes without co-founders. So, to be more specific, do absolutely spend time in finding a co-founder or advisors that you can confide too, but again get over the cold-feet before that. Getting over the cold-feet is a two step process: Do it directly and quickly. 1. Cross over to startup land by quiting your job already. 2. Burn the bridge by telling everyone, your friends, family, (now) old colleagues that you are doing a startup. Always remember, the only way you will get around to fighting the devil is when the deep sea is behind you.